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If you (still) feel the need to discuss Moldies, please do it here so folks can hide this if they want to.

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LittleDonkeyCarrieMaryMumsnet · 23/12/2008 12:47

Well hopefully the title says it all. There's been a suggestion, and we agree, that as we did with Baby P and the Mc Canns we just have one thread where anyone who feels they still have anything to add on this subject can post and those who'd rather move on can hide it away.

It feels strange to put this thread in site stuff as we are definitely not wanting to encourage further discussion of Moldies (we have presents to wrap too you know ) but we weren't sure where else to put it.

We will delete any new Moldies threads that are started, so please feel free to report them in case we miss any (what with wrapping the presents and all...)

And if you do want to carry on the discussion please remember that Mumsnet's here to make everyone's lives easier and not the reverse, and that Christmas is a time of goodwill to all mumsnetters past, present and future

Thanks,
MNHQ

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Flihgtattendant · 29/12/2008 18:16

No, stop it, Lapin was incidental afaik. She's resigned from here anyway, she's feeling awful

Flihgtattendant · 29/12/2008 18:16

Nice one Thready

holidaywonk · 29/12/2008 18:15

Oooh, I see. (Also, now I understand TooManyDaves's name.)

WhisperShoutWhisper · 29/12/2008 18:15

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Threadworm · 29/12/2008 18:15

The Sneetches

(the moral being that eventually "the Sneetches got really quite smart ...
The day they decided that Sneetches are Sneetches. And no kind of Sneetch is the best on the beaches")

(and the second moral being that only McBean The Independent benefits from strife)

Now, the Star-Belly Sneetches had bellies with stars.
The Plain-Belly Sneetches had none upon thars.
Those stars weren?t so big. They were really so small.
You might think such a thing wouldn?t matter at all.

But, because they had stars, all the Star-Belly Sneetches
Would brag, ?We?re the best kind of Sneetch on the beaches.?
With their snoots in the air, they would sniff and they?d snort
?We?ll have nothing to do with the Plain-Belly sort!?
And, whenever they met some, when they were out walking,
They?d hike right on past them without even talking.

When the Star-Belly children went out to play ball,
Could a Plain Belly get in the game? Not at all.
You only could play if your bellies had stars
And the Plain-Belly children had none upon thars.

When the Star Belly Sneetches had frankfurter roasts
Or picnics or parties or marshmallow toasts,
They never invited the Plain-Belly Sneetches
They left them out cold, in the dark of the beaches.
They kept them away. Never let them come near.
And that?s how they treated them year after year.

Then ONE day, it seems while the Plain-Belly Sneetches
Were moping and doping alone on the beaches,
Just sitting there wishing their bellies had stars,
A stranger zipped up in the strangest of cars!

?My friends?, he announced in a voice clear and clean,
?My name is Sylvester McMonkey McBean.
And I?ve heard of Your troubles. I?ve heard you?re unhappy.
But I can fix that, I?m the Fix-It-Up Chappie.

I?ve come here to help you.
I have what you need.
And my prices are low. And I work with great speed.
And my work is one hundred per cent guaranteed!?

Then, quickly, Sylvester McMonkey McBean
Put together a very peculiar machine.
And he said, ?You want stars like a Star-Belly Sneetch?
My friends, you can have them for three dollars each!?

?Just pay me your money and hop right aboard!?
So they clambered inside. Then the big machine roared.
And it klonked. And it bonked. And it jerked. And it berked.
And it bopped them about. But the thing really worked!
When the Plain-Belly Sneetches popped out, they had stars!
They actually did. They had stars upon thars!

Then they yelled at the ones who had stars at the start,
?We?re exactly like you! You can't tell us apart.
We're all just the same, now, you snooty old smarties!
And now we can go to your frankfurter parties."

"Good grief!" groaned the ones who had stars at the first.
We're still the best Sneetches and they are the worst.
But now, how in the world will we know?, they all frowned,
?If which kind is what, or the other way round??

Then up came McBean with a very sly wink.
And he said, ?Things are not quite as bad as you think.
So you don?t know who?s who. That is perfectly true.
But come with me, friends. Do you know what I?ll do?
I?ll make you, again, the best Sneetches on the beaches.
And all it will cost you is ten dollars eaches.?

?Belly stars are no longer in style?, said McBean.
?What you need is a trip through my Star-Off Machine.
This wondrous contraption will take OFF your stars
so you won?t look like Sneetches that have them on thars.?
And that handy machine working very precisely
Removed all the stars from their tummies quite nicely.

Then, with snoots in the air, they paraded about.
And they opened their beaks and they let out a shout,
?We know who is who! Now there Isn?t a doubt.
The best kind of Sneetches are Sneetches without!?

Then, of course, those with stars got all frightfully mad.
To be wearing a star was frightfully bad.
Then, of course, old Sylvester McMonkey McBean
invited THEM into his Star-Off Machine.

Then, of course from THEN on, as you probably guess,
Things really got into a horrible mess.

All the rest of that day, on those wild screaming beaches,
The Fix-It-Up Chappie kept fixing up Sneetches.
Off again! On again! In again! Out again!
Through the machines they raced round and about again,

Changing their stars every minute or two. They kept paying money.
They kept running through until the Plain nor the Star-Bellies knew
Whether this one was that one or that one was this one. Or which one
Was what one or what one was who.

Then, when every last cent of their money was spent,
The Fix-It-Up Chappie packed up. And he went.
And he laughed as he drove In his car up the beach,
?They never will learn. No. You can?t Teach a Sneetch!?

But McBean was quite wrong. I?m quite happy to say.
That the Sneetches got really quite smart on that day.
The day they decided that Sneetches are Sneetches.
And no kind of Sneetch is the best on the beaches.
That day, all the Sneetches forgot about stars and whether
They had one, or not, upon thars.

CaptainUnderpants · 29/12/2008 18:14

Who set up the 'secret forum ' or did they namechange ? Sorry to go over old ground ...

Paperchase · 29/12/2008 18:13

Brilliant post Rhubarb.

Flihgtattendant · 29/12/2008 18:12

You tube

Flihgtattendant · 29/12/2008 18:12

Sneetches

Tortington · 29/12/2008 18:12

they set up a secret online invitation forum
people got pissed off about it

CaptainUnderpants · 29/12/2008 18:10

Ok please could someone in five lines or less explain what has been going on !

Read in the Daily Mail about the upset in MN.

then could someone summarise this thread in five lines or less.

I thank you !

holidaywonk · 29/12/2008 18:09

Wot are Sneetches?

catinthehat1 · 29/12/2008 18:09
Threadworm · 29/12/2008 18:07

LOLOL at the Sneetches comparison.

Flihgtattendant · 29/12/2008 18:05

I've been thinking about this.,

I don't think it's so much there's another place, a better place even...where any of us might want to be.

it's more the implicit thing, that the place they have left behind (mainly) is a bit, well, lacking. It's like that ad where the guy's next door neighbours have got a flashy new car, and sold him their old one, and he is always just one step behind.

It sort of feels like that. 'We have moved on and found a really nice place to meet up, it's better than this one, obviously, therefore you lot are posting on a really rather rubbish website'.

I think that felt insulting to me - that I was a fool for being here while there was such a nice place round the corner.

But it really is a conceit, anyway, and not bothering me very much now (I am relieved to say - no more tears for the telegraph, no sir)

and it really is like the Sneetches. It's not worth getitng in a pickle about any more, for me at least. I don';t really care too much now i've had a proper go at everyone.

TWINSETinapeartree · 29/12/2008 18:05

I feel exactly the same way about this as the newly named Clarissimo only as usual she has said it much better than I have done or probabkly would do.

I would like to think that for all the moldies there have been people that they wished could have joined the board or that they regret causing hurt to. I was touched when one of them went to the trouble of contacting me, it also restored my faith in her as in my usual naval gazing over analysing over needy and sensitive way I was starting to question her and me.

Well said Rhubarb, lets start doing it. I have about two hours to mumsnet while my sister and dd are out.

Can I also say that I have just made the most delicious turkey supreme slight dish so am feeling as the Indie would say smug and self satisfied.

theinsider · 29/12/2008 18:04

Just catching up with this and am to see I'm (mis)quoted in the Telegraph.

Aitch pointed out earlier that she said the words attributed to me. (BTW Thanks for that Aitch, I was about to have to search as I didn't think they were me )

I'm just that my name was in the Telegraph.

cornsilk · 29/12/2008 18:02

Waynetta is that picture really you?

Tortington · 29/12/2008 18:01

Waynetta, please accept my profound apologies, a rather angry poster yesterday described mumsnet the same as your name. I thought it was a namechanger to be deliberatley inflamatory.

i heartily and humbly apologise

WalkinginWaynettaWonderland · 29/12/2008 18:01

No worries Cat

WalkinginWaynettaWonderland · 29/12/2008 18:00

I appear to have upset Custardo - if anyone can work out why please let me know.

catinthehat1 · 29/12/2008 17:59

Thought not, just wanted to get it straight. As you were. Sorry Waynetta.

WalkinginWaynettaWonderland · 29/12/2008 17:59

Cat - not WWW - just WaynettaSlob in Christmas attire.

And cornsilk - - perhaps we are twins separated at birth???

Tortington · 29/12/2008 17:57

she most certainly is not ( i think)

cornsilk · 29/12/2008 17:57

WalkinginWaynettaWonderland - how did you get my picture on your profile?

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