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Testing Testing - Ok so now here's our new look (but you don't have to have it, do you hear?)

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JustinExcelsisMumsnet · 19/12/2008 21:43

This is a sneak preview of our redesign - it's planned across the whole site but we thought we'd give you a preview of Talk so you could give us your thoughts. ETA is early in the new year (God willing).

Two things we should make clear:

First Customise talk and Mn Classic WILL STILL BE AVAILABLE so don't panic if you really hate it!

Second it's not finished yet so not everything works perfectly - it's a test site.

You might wonder why we are bothering with a redesign by the way. We have had quite a lot of feedback that newcomers find the site a little hard to find their way round at first so we are trying to simplify it. We haven't changed much overall in nine years but we've added quite a few bits and bobs on, and to newbies it can be quite daunting we think.

And one more thing - we've found in the past (and we know ourselves) that change can be disorienting but do give it a go for a wee while before you trash it completely, please? .

There's no link to it yet - YetMoreTech will post it in a minute - he wants to add more caveats before he posts it up!

Hope you like it (or at least don't loathe it) - let us know your thoughts.

(Please address all complaints to [email protected])

OP posts:
georgimama · 20/12/2008 21:20

Tickers? Oh please can we have tickers, I feel everyone needs to know when my new bathroom will be installed, or how many days until I have my piles off....

YetMoreTech · 20/12/2008 21:18

georgimama if by playing you mean posting on the new trial site, you can do so now. Just keep in mind that any posts there will evaporate pretty soon.

YetMoreTech · 20/12/2008 21:17

Tickers? Post counts, avatars, poster ratings, invitation only? Who ever heard of such a thing!

georgimama · 20/12/2008 21:17

ooh! I like it!! Much better.

When can we play?

SammyK · 20/12/2008 21:16

Oh thank you!

arf at 'dumb down' you are mn through and through aren't you

nappyaddict · 20/12/2008 21:15

Please can we have some new emoticons?

How about one for the penny dropping, a yawn one, a puke one, a tongue sticking out one, a rolling eyes one, a confused one, a sarcastic one, a tired one, a serious one.

JustinExcelsisMumsnet · 20/12/2008 21:02

WE PROMISE WE'LL NEVER HAVE TICKERS! The aim is not to dumb down here but to improve usability.

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SammyK · 20/12/2008 20:49

Hmm . . I don't do change either (still have my MN classic settings), and I'm sorry but I don't like it.

As long as I can keep my classic settings I will let you off.

My only worry is newbies may be lulled into a false sense of fluffy, ticker friendly related security, and then come crashing down to earth when they post. It looks to bright and friendly and NM ish for my liking.

Please can justine and tech promise we will never have tickers?

I have to say I have always liked that I can see all the topics listed, I am lazy andimpatient and would never click on the drop downs to view more topics.

RustyBear · 20/12/2008 20:46

Think Show All would be a good idea.

nappyaddict · 20/12/2008 20:45

is there a way to stop really long thread titles going over the top of the mn latest bit?

nappyaddict · 20/12/2008 20:38

yes I like the show all option.

ToysAreLikeDogs · 20/12/2008 20:34
YetMoreTech · 20/12/2008 20:31

The idea of blue for links is that it will be utterly consistent through the WHOLE site. As well as Talk we've redesigned all the other content and have a ton of fabulous new content too. Whilst talk is the most important bit of the site for many many people we want to try to get more consistency to make life easier for all. The blue bars (which as I've said a couple of times, are probably displaying as taller than they should for some users) are coming in for quite a lot of stick so we'll be sure to beat have a word with the graphic designer on that one.

For those that don't love the "more" option on topic lists, firstly keep in mind that you can click the category and it will expand - you don't have to click the more link. How about we add link at the top that says "Show All" and that would automatically expand all categories?

nappyaddict · 20/12/2008 20:21

I don't like how you have to click on more to find the rest of the topics. If you were quite a new member you might not remember which section a certain topic was in and you'd have to go through all of them clicking more to find it rather than just being able to scroll down the page.

waltzywotzy · 20/12/2008 20:11

lol @ nannynick and his request for some padding
you geek!

waltzywotzy · 20/12/2008 20:09

I notice some others saying too much blue for the text (topic titles for example).
I tend to agree

waltzywotzy · 20/12/2008 20:07

well I am not "in" a Mac (that would be plain mad)
"using" a Mac

waltzywotzy · 20/12/2008 20:06

I like the concept. It works well. I am sure members would get used to it very quickly.

Only feedback I have:
I would prefer when you are in the topic for list of active convos, that the text to be smaller or in normal weight, not so large and blue + bold as it appears too big and runs over too much. Makes 2 lines. Will you have a limit on the topic heads? If someone post a really long thread title there is a max of letters. Much better?

The other heads that appear "replies", "latest" and "by" headings read very well.
It is not very easy to read the thread titles AS THEY ARE SO BIG and shouty. The weight and size could be made smaller ie the Summer Holiday Survival tips text (in blue on the right) is a much better size if you stick to blue and bold.

Lovely though.

For TECH I am in a Mac using Safari.

LittleJingleBellas · 20/12/2008 20:04

Blimey

I like it

And I'm a mumsnet classic girl as well

muckypups · 20/12/2008 19:37

Looking good guys. Will have a good look round later since Dh has abandoned me in favour of beer and curry night.

Psychobabble · 20/12/2008 19:20

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nickytinseltimes · 20/12/2008 19:19

I don't like that, but then I still prefer mn classic.
I am another one who doesn't really do change.

nooka · 20/12/2008 18:34

Ah, I see nannynick has said the same thing as me, but in tech talk I may be married to a techie, but I don't do the talk!

nooka · 20/12/2008 18:33

I think that part of it for me is the new blue (for the darker bars) seems very dominant. I'm also not very keen on the little purple arrows, although that's a very minor issue.

I think my most significant concern is about not showing most of the talk topics on the Talk page, because they aren't grouped in a very intuitive way, so for example I post in Living Overseas, which is for some reason under Homes and Gardens. In the new design you have to click "more" under homes and gardens to know that the topic exists, and why would you? So I would worry about lots of topics getting lost, and that means, I think that they will die over time, as the next generation of users takes over. Likewise Chat under fun and games, or Dadsnet under In the Club.

I'm not getting a very muddled looking discussions page, with lots of overlap - assume this is something being fixed as I type, because it wasn't like that earlier. One thing I did think in passing, looking at this page is that the bit at the bottom letting people know how to start a new thread etc is much more infomrative than the one t the top - would it be too crowded to use the same approach for the top and bottom, because on the busier topics the bottom is a long way down.

Is there any reason why last 15 mins and last hour have been excised as options? I always like to know how busy the board is, and whether I'm likely to get any responses when I post, and I like the lay out of the last 15 mins page, because you get a glimpse of the sort of conversations that are going on, and whether you are likely to want to join them (oh and whether anyone has responded to your witty post)

I think the crowded/white border issues come to the fore in the threads themselves. Compared to classic the text looks very squished, which seems to be both lack of space between the posts (esp where there are lots of short posts) so that the blue line is too dominant, and also within the posts, where classic seems to have a wider line spacing. For some reason the couple of centimeters of white space on either side of the screen accentuate this, because it makes it look as if the text is squished into the middle of the page.

Raalix · 20/12/2008 18:31

I really like that.

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