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Should Mumsnet be going to Baby Show ? We need your views

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carriemumsnet · 02/10/2008 14:22

Hi all

Reposting this here from the Baby Show volunteers thread to make sure we get widest response....

Basically we've had a great response to our appeal for help running a stall at the Baby Show. But now something has come up and, as usual, we want you to contribute to our decision. We've had an email from a mumsnetter saying that Clarion, the Baby Show organisers, also organise arms fairs and questioning whether, in that case, Mumsnet should be associated with them.

I don't think any of us are pro arms, but you could argue that Clarion aren't manufacturing or selling arms, they're just the organisers of a fair.

If we attend the Baby Show we have the chance to introduce Mumsnet (a good thing we hope you'll agree ) to several thousand mums-to-be who will then find out, for example, why lots of Mumsnetters boycott Nestle as well as the truth about fruit shoots and Greggs sausage rolls.

Or we pull out now. It's another one of those 'where do you draw the line?' discussions and we're torn. What do you think?

MNHQ

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Flamebat · 02/10/2008 19:33

I say yes, but for the same reason as MRM

I can always balance the ethics a bit and promote some cloth nappies whilst I'm there if ya want

ahundredtimes · 02/10/2008 19:31

I wish I knew why MN wanted to go, because then it would help to decide.

I've thought about it, and my vote is no to the baby show and YES PLEASE to me manning a MN stall with Swedes at the Petrochemical Fair 2008. I thenk you.

[bows]

nickytwotimes · 02/10/2008 19:29

No, for the reasons so eloquently expressed by VS.

berolina · 02/10/2008 19:25

It's a no from me

MegBusset · 02/10/2008 19:04

I say no, of course arms fairs sell some very very nasty equipment (cluster bombs, anyone?) to some very very nasty regimes with no thought to anything but profit. But then it's a tough thing to ask to put morals before business sadly not many organisations will do it

FAQ · 02/10/2008 19:01

I started reading this thread thinking yes you should go - but having read through it I think you should pull out and do as others have suggested above.

MinkyBorage · 02/10/2008 18:55

what policy wonk said. NO

PrettyCandles · 02/10/2008 18:52

On the contrary, all the more reason for going: someone needs to counter the Bounty-viewpoints!

The lack of disabled changing is bad, but that's something to lobby the venue about.

And to the poster who talked about needing to support the type of parent whom they assumed didn't go to baby fairs, well posh chavs or whoever it is that drools about Quinnies also need weaning and breastfeed support, PND support and all the other things MN provides which can be difficult to find elsewhere.

Sycamoretree · 02/10/2008 16:05

gracias Ta

VictorianSqualor · 02/10/2008 15:57

ST, you have to do every word, not sentence.

VictorianSqualor · 02/10/2008 15:56

I think, no.

You can get a good deal of publicity by being a website that won't sell out for publicity.

Plus no disabled facilities? At a babyfair? Why the hell not.
Next you'll tell us they don't have facilities for breastfeeding (by which I mean somewhere to sit not a toilet to be shoved in)

I think claire verity got dropped by them last year did she not?

Also they are sponsored by bounty who have been shockingly removing all info about early weaning from their site as posted by MNers but allowing an 'early weaning club (some as young as 7 weeks) continue AND that daft clare byam-cook is going that poo-pooed wet nursing and the idea that formula companies undermine breastfeeding/are unethical in their approach, on This Morning.

Nah, don't associate yourselves with that kind of 'expert'.

Sycamoretree · 02/10/2008 15:53

I don't think you should go, for all the reasons stated. More publicity for pulling out (if publicity for MN is indeed the main reason for going). I'm sure we all completely appreciate you need your advertising revenue to keep going, but am I naive in thinking that press publicity would be as helpful for you in this respect? I'd certainly be much more inspired to log on/look into a parenting site that also seemed to have an identity and an opinion beyond Gregs, Fruit Shoots and a minge puce quinny LOL!

TBH, I think word of mouth from other mums who use MN is the best publicity anyway - I don't think I'd have started wasting my time contributing to stimulating and thought provoking debate on here if I'd come across you at a baby fair (not that I have ever been to one - I did a wedding fair once and that was enough to put me off anything fair-based for life).

Also, for those that think arms trading is above board, and that these guys aren't trading to mercenaries or whatever, all I can say is, did you not watch Iron Man???

Also, can someone tell me why suddenly my striking out is not working?

zippitippitoes · 02/10/2008 15:45

lol i am praxctising persuading and influencing

FioFio · 02/10/2008 15:43

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zippitippitoes · 02/10/2008 15:42

i have read up on this now and i think that mumsnet should not have a stall and make the reason why known

ThreadieKrueger · 02/10/2008 15:41

and parenting

ThreadieKrueger · 02/10/2008 15:40

rowntree foundation one of their current research programmes is child poverty in the uk.

Good people for MN to ally itself with as far as i know

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bundle · 02/10/2008 15:28

ewwwwwwwwwwww lemon

combustiblelemon · 02/10/2008 15:27

They've been sending Big Tech out round Kings Cross in stockings and suspenders.

zippitippitoes · 02/10/2008 15:27

stichj its part of the mn money laundering business

cash

stickyj · 02/10/2008 15:25

Can I just ask how MN are paying for the stand, 'cos the cheapest is lots of £'s(my Co. is going, so I know!)

combustiblelemon · 02/10/2008 15:24

Pull out. You can get the publicity from an article about why you pulled out.