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Censorship - Why are the Steiner threads being deleted and everyone being banned?

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barking · 07/07/2008 20:09

Can someone please explain to me what is going on?

I have asked MNHQ the following questions but have had no response

I had read on another thread that the reason was due to posters not contributing to other threads - can someone explain as I see plenty of examples of parents using only one topic and there isn't an issue with removing them.

Why was there no warnings given?

There have been other posters banned before for saying much worse and later reinstated

If someone is threatening mumsnet, can you please tell us what exactly for?

Is there such a thing as liability insurance we can agree to take out?

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forevercleaning · 07/07/2008 20:53

I worked in a steiner based environment, and had no idea of what it was all about, and still dont lol!!

We were given 'lectures' on four fold man, three fold man, upside down plants and all bloody sorts.

It was the funniest and strangest place I have ever worked in, and spent the time in the lectures bending forwards pretending to tie my shoelaces whilst stifling in the giggles with mates.

None of us understood it, but the final straw was having to admire the beauty of an ordinary wooden chair, the marvellous curves of the leg and the back etc.

PMSL

northernrefugee39 · 07/07/2008 20:52

Boco, I tend to agree about the going round and round bit. I know.
A new poster came on though very recently, with a really moving story about her steiner expoeince in scotland. She was looking for suppoert and to share what she had believed was an isolated experience.

northernrefugee39 · 07/07/2008 20:49

lulu- some people have said that the threads have really helped them, pointed them to read steiner and find out things that the schools are at great pains to cover up.
It all went really bonkers when Eva? thebee came on, because he is really bonkers!

Boco · 07/07/2008 20:47

But northernref - if that's the case, fine, it's all there in the archives, said over and over again. I did find it interesting to read through - once, but it goes round and round.

If a parent wanted to know about Steiner and looked into the archives they'd find masses.

This stopped being informative to potential parents and just became in internal debate between very few posters - which is fine, but when it goes on and on like that, there is probably somewhere better to continue that debate.

northernrefugee39 · 07/07/2008 20:47

Toweres have told me that they can't check every post that is reported, theyb just delete it. so the anthros just go on reporting oin order to delete the steiner stuff about race, and articles linked to it.
they also monitor wikepedia 24/7 to make sure no one puts things about steiner they don't like ther either.
The press are interested now anyway, so it will come out at some point.

Dragonbutter · 07/07/2008 20:47

maybe they could sense my annoyance at having to hide every single steiner thread.
aah, and here's another one.

lulumama · 07/07/2008 20:47

yes, parenting in the forces is more of a relevant issue perhaps. or perhaps not.

but if i had to choose one of the two that was more relevant to more people, i would say forces.

but the point is that you steiner is contentious, potentially libellous things are being said. if people are being deceived, then that is wrong, but is MN the right forum?

people have perceived the threads as bonkers and crazy.. not bringing the truth to the masses

surely if people want to find out about steiner and the truth thereof, they would look to otehr sources than mumsnet.

llareggub · 07/07/2008 20:47

There only needs to be one Steiner thread where the same few posters can post the same few things over and over again. I'm not entirely convinced that the posters actually read each other's posts.

Carmenere · 07/07/2008 20:47

And there seems to be one on the go atm so that obviously hasn't been censored.

Whizzz · 07/07/2008 20:46

Agree-I haven't read the Steiner threads apaprt from the one further down the active convos, but the main difference seems to be the tone set by a few posters. With the recent legal stuff about other parenting 'ideas' being taken as personal attacks & therefore threatening MN, I think this forum is just the wrong place to put such propaganda.

frogs · 07/07/2008 20:45

But NR, 'forces sweethearts' seem to post on a range of related topics.

Whereas all steiner threads turn out the same: an innocent OP asks a genuine question, but it rapidly turns into a re-hash of the same obscure points being made by the same very small band of posters. It is utterly unintelligible to anyone else.

And I do have an opinion on Steiner, and have occasionally posted it when people have asked for opinions. But the really intense Steinerista/anti-Steinerista debates are really in the wrong place here.

fymandbean · 07/07/2008 20:45

little bella

I look at them once NEVER AGAIN

Group of people with diametrically opposing views on Steiner schools - not a debate just a slanging match.

Carmenere · 07/07/2008 20:45

And there is every possibility that the whole GF issue could have been far more contained and less expensive if mn had just censored it a bit more, I am hypothesising btw.

northernrefugee39 · 07/07/2008 20:45

It's extremely unlikely that there is any legal comeback- it is a tactic used by the steiner people and anthroposphists to stifle debate and carry on deceiving people.

OomphreyCushion · 07/07/2008 20:44

maybe not, but the forces sweethearts don't tend to fling mud at each other and copy and paste like things possessed.

northernrefugee39 · 07/07/2008 20:44

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Carmenere · 07/07/2008 20:43

No but forces sweethearts are probably not going to jeoprodise the meagre income that HQ manage to squeeze out of the advertisers, in the form of legal fees. get over it.

northernrefugee39 · 07/07/2008 20:41

lul- are forces sweethearts a major parenting issue then?

lulumama · 07/07/2008 20:41

but it is mumsnet, not steinernet

it is something beyond the remit of so many parents and so contentious, and could potentially end mumsnet up in a lot of trouble

expatinscotland · 07/07/2008 20:40

I shall miss TheBee

northernrefugee39 · 07/07/2008 20:40

Even if some people hate them, found them strange and confusing, other people found them a place where they ould share experiences.
Surely, even if people think the above, there still should be some explanation as to why some have been deleted.
And if someone is threatening them, what is the charge?
You don't have to go on threads you don't want to. There are plenty I find boring to a degree, or offensive.

Boco · 07/07/2008 20:40

I will miss the gnomes though.

controlfreakyagain · 07/07/2008 20:38

they are bonkers barking mad lb....
really bonkers barking mad..... and v v v dull.....

lulumama · 07/07/2008 20:38

i had read and lurked on a few of the steiner threads

they seemed incredibly convoluted and complex

and there seemed to be lots of personal attacks/ pointed criticism and threats

which is just not apporpriate

if people only wish to talk about steiner schools, then join a yahoo group as it is hardly mainstream parenting issue.

mumsnet is by paretns for paretns and the steiner threads were not really representative of the vast , vast majority of mnetters

IMO

LittleBella · 07/07/2008 20:36

I've never read any of the steiner threads, what is with them?

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