Miscarriage guidelines - fabulous - but...

FWIW - I was "unwilling" when I first started bottle feeding DS2 - I felt guilty, but I realised a few months later that I was guilty about it because I'd heard SO much stuff about "guilt" of not BFing, and all the reasons I should have persevered with the BFing I was expected to feel guilty! The assumption was that as BF hadn't worked out how I'd hoped it would (ie as long/longer than DS1) then I must be upset and feel bad about not doing the best for my DC.......a months later I realised that actually I had NO guilt about it at all, I had no reason to.

I do think that there's a lot of pressure placed on pg women to BF, so much so that when they don't (for whatever reason) they automatically feel guilty. They're led to believe (even before giving birth) that they'll have "failed" (even the sodding term "failure" to thrive!) if they don't succeed.

I tried to BF DS3 (more successfully than I did with DS2 ) but when I switched him over felt no guilt at all. When people asked if I was disappointed/upset/etc about no longer BF I was able to answer - no....whereas with DS2 for a few months I felt that I had to answer yes.

Ben and Jerry's Hunker???????

fair enough FAQ

i still think that there is too much choice and confusion re formula

and as i said, they are in it for the money. hence money spinning things like toddler milk when cows milk is perfectly adequate and night time milk which is, IMO, like mashed potato in a bottle.....

less choice of brands and more concentrating on advising parents how to safely formula feed would be far more beneficial

ah well no, faq. official advice (this may even be on the side of the pack) is NEVER to use a micro cos of hotspots. fookin' health and safety.

oh hunker - a thing of hot water to heat the feed in............that's why microwaves were invented isn't it??? To warm the bottle of milk up quickly

gosh, you lentil-weaving bfing mafiose really love your stereotypes, don'tcha?

oh yes. but i do think that even if you don't get into the cheats of how to do it safely and expediently then you can at least point out why the guidelines have changed and that there is a risk inherent in not making up at 70degs.

well FWIW I could have done with some straightforward guidelines when I started breast-feeding my dd-the only real advice I got from midwives was about latching on properly

was not really aware of how frequently I should have been feeding dd in the early days, think I let her go too long between feeds, and had trouble establishing my supply etc etc
things I maybe could have avoided with the proper advice...

actually partly unrelated I found out I did not know how to change a nappy there I was 36 and the no clue
maybe it was the drugs

i am hearing you hunker!!

yes, i do think that FAQ.

the beauty of breast milk is it is adaptable, wheras so many formulas make it a guessing game.

some babies are just windier, more unsettled, hungrier.. i do not have that much faith that one partic type of milk makes that baby more settled and less windy. but that is not to say i am right!

the formula companies are in it for the money. end of.

infant feeding in itself is a minefield, there needs to be universal access to the correct information re breastfeeding and bottle feeding. but the misinformation about breast feeding far outweighs that re formula, IME and IMO

I would agree to the OP being 'promoted' is not the same has having proper support when the time comes.
I did not attend ante natal classes and BF was barely discussed with midwife pre baby.
I was quite clear that BF was the way to go for me and did not even consider FF

still, when the time came I had huge problems and zero help from the hospital. the help we eventually had, was from volunteer organisations

so yes just paying lip service to a slogan is not good enough

one or two brands of formula???

Not sure they're that "similar" to each other TBH.

Aptimil (biggest mistake of my life) disagreed HORRIBLY with DS3, and SMA Gold was like giving an apple to a Lion for his dinner and expecting him to be happy . So SMA White worked for both of mine (greedy little pigs LOL).

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When I was pregnant first time round, I felt that bf was really heavily promoted, to the point where it actually put me off doing it. It is possible to go OTT with these things.

IMO, there should only be one or two brands of formula... they are all much of a muchness and closer to each other, not breastmilk.. there are first milks, second milks, toddler milks, hungry baby milks, night time milks ( FFS!) , ones with added fish oils etc etc etc

so confusing

i can see there are questions with regard to formula feeding that need anwsering, but the reason breastfeeding should be more heavily prmoted and encourages is the benefits to mother and baby.. however good formula is , it is not breast milk

btw - I X posts with your B&J's one (my 16.09 one)

oooo I couldn't eat any more Ben and Jerry's - had a whole tub this morning (Piece of Cake) - couldn't possibly eat any more today