what on earht are you all doing wih tis suiceide stuff

I might need to call the Samaritans after this thread.
Making the fish chuckle, agreeing furiously with madamez AND dittany.
Quite bizarre

The assumption that only a trained expert
can pull people back from the brink is bogus.
It's a convenient cop-out.

Effie, I sort of agree that expert opinion would be welcome.
Sort of, because I am not at all certain that Mental Health Professionals
do have all the answers. And I don't think they are either.

The reason why I am pushing this point with foxinsocks is because
she thinks they are the right and only port of call so I would expect her to respect their authority.

I suspect we need to wait for MNHQ now.

I am very glad that the initial suggestion of pulling such threads has been discarded by most posters now.
It was unworkable and morally bankrupt.

on

But they DON'T know

suffering from depression does not make you an expert

who knows what else is going in? One of the biggest risks of suicide is coming off antidepressants: are we pharmaceutical experts?

it's a medical emergency not a chat topic

cod, you don't know, I don't know -
quite a few people on here do.
Let them get on with it, I say.

Maybe you and I can learn from them.

daddyj: there have also been comments from mental health professionals

but I think we need an Expert Opinion on this

hence my (ignored) suggestion for a live chat with someone

maybe head of MIND or SANE?

or Samaritans bod?

increasing number of mental health isshoes in MN, besides suicide threads

would def agree to threads being moved from Chat for a start

then I can skip around the jolly style and food threads in the comforting knowledge that all the wailing is hidden from my delicate eyes, therefore continuing my slightly self satisfied, idyllic bubble of a life.

lol at red rug.

OK, I thought it was more recent than that. I do think namechanging causes a lot of grief on some threads though tbh.

agree about corralling into feeling depressed

But when Titania was around, you couldn't name change for a start. Plus the board was a lot smaller.

what do yo umean

we've always had 'jumpers' here

remember titania?

OK, have waded through the entire thread and fwiw, I think that Feeling Depressed should be a moderated section. I also think that any suicidal threads in Chat should immediately be moved to Feeling Depressed. There are some robust posters on MN and having been here for more years than I care to mention, I think that some recent posters are too fragile to cope out on the main boards (I think I've phrased that badly but YKWIM). The problem comes when someone posts a suicidal thread in Chat as nobody has Chat hidden, so it attracts everybody - helpers, rubberneckers and "pull your socks up" types. Hopefully if the threads were moved, only the helpers would continue to respond.

foxinsocks, you were one of the first posters to mention 'trained Samaritans'
and now that 2 trained Samaritans have disagreed with you,
suddenly their professional opinion is not good enough anymore.

Slubber's husband was the other mental health professional I spotted
on this thread saying that MNers 'keeping a suicidal person talking' was a good thing.
(Slubberdegullion on Fri 30-May-08 18:17:44)

The first 50-100 posts do make uncomfortable reading.
Example of dismissive statement: 'not our job'
Example of mocking statement: 'eeveryone getting all excited and orgasmnign oev th delight of it all'

MNers are by definition a lovely bunch of compassionate people
but the tone of those posts was harsh.

Just referring to the OP, if you have the presence of mind to post on Mumsnet then you ain't gonna top yourself I don't think. These people usually aren't in a very reasonable state of mind and just do it as if on impulse, sometimes they don't even leave a note. My brother threatened suicide around Christmastime, texted us to say he was standing on a bridge in London and he was going to throw himself off. But we knew that as long as he had the presence of mind to text, then he was ok. It was more of a cry for help. Which is what these people want I think. A bit of sympathy and attention.

squint away!

She is also evidently a 'poisson tres fickle' I see.

Cariboo I think I narrowed my eyes at you a few times, but to be honest couldn't work out what side you were on.