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Anti-Dementors : The AD’s

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MinkyGreen · 15/03/2023 04:40

Anti-Dementirs. These are a long running group of threads on Mumsnet.
I’ve recently been on a Covid thread and felt attacked by a group of posters for stating a consensus science view.
I then looked into who this group are - and they have formed threads called the ‘Anti-Dementors”. Dementors being those who wore masks/followed lockdown rules.
The groups they perceive as ‘dementors’ are dismissed/ridiculed as putting ‘cheese in coffee’, - or sitting in their garden with laptops during lockdown. The fact is that many were vulnerable/protecting the vulnerable.
There us also support/links to publications like ‘Unherd’ and ‘State of Fear’ which are bordering conspiracy theory territory.

While I think the discourse is important - it makes me very uneasy when people form ‘echo chambers’ and ridicule/attack/make snide comments in a group towards those with opposing views.

I look forward to your response!

OP posts:
PinkSparklyPussyCat · 24/03/2023 17:07

I was called all sorts when I admitted to going to a VE Day street party, no one was bothered by that. I was called thick for buying chocolate. I was told I live in a hovel as I don't have a spare room. To be fair I think it just shows the stupidity of the posters but some people might not.

FrostyFifi · 24/03/2023 16:57

@MinkyGreen unlike you I didn't go running off to the mods if I saw a post I didn't like . That's what I mean by you trying to police other people's speech. Shame it hasn't worked out for you.

DanceMonster · 24/03/2023 16:53

MinkyGreen · 24/03/2023 16:49

@FrostyFifi

And who do you think you are to make sweeping assumptions and to label people ‘lockdown lovers’ with absolutely no thought or consideration as to what your supposed ‘cheese in coffee drinkers’ were going through? To create threads and threads if it, and then get with your gang and mock/ridicule on other threads??

Whether it’s ‘allowed’ or not - I’ll use your beloved ‘freedom of speech’ argument to call it out. It’s shit behaviour.

Some people loved lockdown. They have admitted to it on here (at the time, and since). It isn’t our job to think about all the background circumstances to someone’s post… if they post that they’re living loving working from their garden in lockdown, that’s what is commented on. It wasn’t lies, it was based on actual thins people said.

MinkyGreen · 24/03/2023 16:49

@FrostyFifi

And who do you think you are to make sweeping assumptions and to label people ‘lockdown lovers’ with absolutely no thought or consideration as to what your supposed ‘cheese in coffee drinkers’ were going through? To create threads and threads if it, and then get with your gang and mock/ridicule on other threads??

Whether it’s ‘allowed’ or not - I’ll use your beloved ‘freedom of speech’ argument to call it out. It’s shit behaviour.

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PinkSparklyPussyCat · 24/03/2023 16:42

Basically you see what you want to see. It wouldn't be difficult to find some of the really nasty threads but I doubt you'd bother looking because it doesn't fit with what you want.

FrostyFifi · 24/03/2023 16:41

Who do you actually think you are to try and police other people's discussions like this?

DanceMonster · 24/03/2023 16:33

And again, at your admission, you didn’t see them at the time. Only now, 3 years later, because you’ve actively looked for them.

DanceMonster · 24/03/2023 16:32

MinkyGreen · 24/03/2023 16:31

Except I don’t really see all these threads and threads of people yelling ‘fucking selfish’. I DO see a group dismissing the needs of the vulnerable and mocking those who supported NHS guidelines. I see a group descending on the Covid threads and sharing Daily Telegraph, anti science musings whist being pretty nasty to those who disagree. I see a group with members who shared the sort of extreme stuff that got deleted on previous threads, or who got a ban - and are now coming back in a more vanilla form.

You see them because, by your own admission, you sought them out.

MinkyGreen · 24/03/2023 16:31

Except I don’t really see all these threads and threads of people yelling ‘fucking selfish’. I DO see a group dismissing the needs of the vulnerable and mocking those who supported NHS guidelines. I see a group descending on the Covid threads and sharing Daily Telegraph, anti science musings whist being pretty nasty to those who disagree. I see a group with members who shared the sort of extreme stuff that got deleted on previous threads, or who got a ban - and are now coming back in a more vanilla form.

OP posts:
Buzzinwithbez · 24/03/2023 15:29

💐Minky

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 24/03/2023 15:13

Have you reported all the people who ganged up on those of us who questioned lockdown @MinkyGreen or are we fair game? Plenty of the lockdown supporters were bloody horrible people but were allowed to get away with it.

MichelleScarn · 24/03/2023 15:12

@MinkyGreen I hope you then reported all the ganging up threads on mn overlockdown regarding those seen as 'flaunting the rooolz' 😱😱
You know all the ones like 'I'm really struggling to cope with 2 dc with significant needs, we have no garden and I'd have to drive an hour to get to a place where they can safely get fresh air and exercise' when they were rounded on and accused of being 'superspreaders' 'killing the vulnerable' 'fucking selfish' I'm sure you were the very first to defend the poster and challenge the mob?

FrostyFifi · 24/03/2023 15:11

So can we assume that we've got official sanction from MN and we're all good, despite the frantic reporting? Does that mean we can draw a line under the topic or can we look forward to further tantrums?

DanceMonster · 24/03/2023 15:05

MinkyGreen · 24/03/2023 14:50

@CoffeeWithCheese

When people are being fucking unpleasant and ganging up - if I feel I want to report it - then I will thanks. Particularly when it involves morally questionable views around a pandemic where millions have died worldwide. It’s why site stuff exists, it’s why the report button exists.

In terms of hurt feelings and pathetic behaviour - you clearly felt the need get away and have your own little echo chamber huddle where you can poke fun at all those horrid ‘lockdown lovers’. Y’know those middle class cheesy nitwits who spend all day on their laptop. Funny that because I’m wondering how much laptop time was involved in creating threads and threads dissing them all??

And assuming you’ve reported all the horrid threads, and you’ve certainly tagged @HopeMumsnet enough times on here, we should probably assume they’ve done there job as they see fit and allowed them to stand.

MinkyGreen · 24/03/2023 14:50

@CoffeeWithCheese

When people are being fucking unpleasant and ganging up - if I feel I want to report it - then I will thanks. Particularly when it involves morally questionable views around a pandemic where millions have died worldwide. It’s why site stuff exists, it’s why the report button exists.

In terms of hurt feelings and pathetic behaviour - you clearly felt the need get away and have your own little echo chamber huddle where you can poke fun at all those horrid ‘lockdown lovers’. Y’know those middle class cheesy nitwits who spend all day on their laptop. Funny that because I’m wondering how much laptop time was involved in creating threads and threads dissing them all??

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Overthinkingnotdrinking · 21/03/2023 14:23

op please just leave it, it’s not doing you any good to be this obsessed with a thread not going your way over a week later. There is no cabal, there was no coordination. Tagging mumsnet is crazy when you just want to tell tales on people that don’t share your views. Take care of yourself and step away. I’m 15 years on mumsnet I’ve never seen anyone do this.

AliceOlive · 21/03/2023 13:28

There is a lot of “I imagine”, “I believe”, “I feel” going on here and not much actual thinking based on facts.

If you didn’t berate others for questioning the rules and following rules to the letter rather than going way overboard, then no one was talking about you, if you didn’t post room and gloom every time someone posted something hopeful, you are not what people meant when they used the word “dementor”.

But your repeated efforts to have the “authorities” censor people here the past few days paints a very shocking picture. The kind of wake-up Cubans had when the government came in and paved over their gardens. Where their friends and neighbors reported them for sharing milk rations with mothers of starving babies.

CoffeeWithCheese · 21/03/2023 12:45

MichelleScarn · 21/03/2023 11:02

If its going to be seen as being part of a shadowy cabal because we spoke about it, and tried to make some 'lightness out of the dark' I want a badge!! 😄

Oooh can we have a shadowy cabal cool kids club now?

CoffeeWithCheese · 21/03/2023 12:44

MinkyGreen · 21/03/2023 06:35

@@HopeMumsnet

The ganging up has been somewhat toned down on this thread, I would imagine because big Mumsnet is watching.

I’m 99% sure there are previously banned posters on the AD thread. I would imagine for posting misinformation and attacking others in the past.

I rarely see that sort of behaviour from what would be the opposing stance - bans, ridiculing etc. Or certainly not to the extent that threads and threads and threads have been written to mock and ridicule.

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You must be new here then if you didn't see the fucking horrendous ganging up and thread invasions we put up with all those years ago. And no, I'm definitely not being nice and fluffy out of fear over Big MN... (is that like Big Pharma).

You are being utterly ridiculous (sadly we don't have a subforum for that yet)... stirring it up and poking for a reaction, then running off to Google whatever legislation you think might be remotely relevant to your hurty feelings and coming back. What exactly do you want MN to do - retrospectively ban anyone who ever clicked on or posted on an AD thread three years ago? An apology for the fact that something you were unaware of being said three years ago made you sad feels when you went actively looking for it? As adults throughout the land have said since the dawn of time - if that bit of your arm hurts when you poke it - don't fucking poke it then.

The desperate and frantic tagging of MN bods every time you bounce back with a little bit more evidence of your hurty feelings from the threads you've clearly spent a lot of time with advanced search trying to find also looks distinctly pathetic btw. I'm sure @HopeMumsnet is currently desperately trying to put her knickers on over her tights and find a cape to come down like Superman and sort the meany people who said nasty things I went looking for that they were saying out for you.

MichelleScarn · 21/03/2023 12:25

Have been trying to change prison to lockdown but sadly have appalling techy skills! 😁

Anti-Dementors : The AD’s
MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 21/03/2023 11:19

MichelleScarn · 21/03/2023 11:02

If its going to be seen as being part of a shadowy cabal because we spoke about it, and tried to make some 'lightness out of the dark' I want a badge!! 😄

There does seem to be a hamfisted attempt at suggesting that, IMO of course. Let's face it, March 2020 onwards was a gift to conspiracy theorists. Three years after the event is a bit odd, though.

I want a badge!!

🏅Will that do?

MichelleScarn · 21/03/2023 11:02

If its going to be seen as being part of a shadowy cabal because we spoke about it, and tried to make some 'lightness out of the dark' I want a badge!! 😄

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 21/03/2023 10:56

I think they’ve probably just stopped bothering replying because it’s a boring, circular conversation and you are just repeating the same points over and over without saying what you actually want anyone to do about it

And this. OP seems desperate to prove there's some sort of shadowy cabal behind the AD threads when in reality it was posters who wanted a bit of a refuge from all the doom and catastrophe. Thank goodness they did, is all I can say; I realised thaT wasn't alone in feeling like I did at the time.

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 21/03/2023 10:32

The ganging up has been somewhat toned down on this thread, I would imagine because big Mumsnet is watching

Doesn't the ganging up on those of us who had different opinions count. It was as though a klaxon went off at times and certain posters would descend on a thread and abuse and belittle people. And yes, I did report certain posters at the time.

KnittingNeedles · 21/03/2023 10:24

And dragging up three year old threads which weren’t bad enough to complain about at the time.

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