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ofwarren · 11/02/2023 09:26

Hi,

The Nicola Bulley thread must have been hidden overnight by nightwatch. I wasn't on it at the time to see what happened.
Are we allowed the post back or are we not allowed to discuss it now?

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Activelyannoyed · 11/02/2023 11:57

2bazookas · 11/02/2023 11:50

AIUI Her family and friends have asked the general public to back off, STOP SPECULATING and gossiping, to NOT turn up at the site getting in the way of searches and police enquiries.

MN should take note. If it has, good.

you can’t see the nuance> you think any form of discussion is what the family want silenced. I’d beg to disagree. They want the focus on. What they don’t want is people turning up. Taking the law into their own hands, taking selfies, or throwing hurtful accusations about.

at no stage have they said we wish all discussion and media attention shut down.

Activelyannoyed · 11/02/2023 11:51

PurpleButterflyWings · 11/02/2023 11:15

And I shall start by hiding THIS thread!

Awesome. I think we are delighted about that. If you can convince your friends who are reading every word obsessively, and then complaining, to do the same, we’d be grateful,

thanks muchy. We all know your opinion. No need to keep telling us. Pop over to Twitter or net huns or Reddit and spread the word there that you want this focus off and for people to be silenced. Then start emailing the mail etc. your work here is done.

2bazookas · 11/02/2023 11:50

AIUI Her family and friends have asked the general public to back off, STOP SPECULATING and gossiping, to NOT turn up at the site getting in the way of searches and police enquiries.

MN should take note. If it has, good.

Hillsmakeyoustrong · 11/02/2023 11:39

The police has said not to speculate online. For me that means inferring and making defamatory comments. Hypotheses and expressing genuine concern around what has happened to Nicola and the police's handling of the case should be a given in a democratic society.

Paul has said he wants the surrounding land and buildings to be searched as that particular trail is really only known to and frequented by the local community. He knows Nicola, knows the area and has two little girls that want to know what's happened to their mummy. He deserves to be heard after two weeks of 'unprecedented hell' and given that noone else has the insight he has. He is feeling angry and frustrated and personally I think discussion needs to continue albeit in a sensitive and sensible manner.

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 11/02/2023 11:35

If the police do know more than they are saying, and frankly I doubt that, then they are keeping it from the family too

Which they could be. And quite frankly, in times I understand why they would.

Bluebellwood129 · 11/02/2023 11:32

confounded234 · 11/02/2023 11:21

Given the profound lack of confidence in the police investigation expressed by Paul, I think it’s important that in a democratic society there should be opportunities for the public to express doubts and expose holes in official narratives, so long as nothing libellous is mentioned. If the public can’t do that then we are heading towards authoritarianism where questions official narratives can result in punishment from the state. It’s a slippery slope

I agree.

ofwarren · 11/02/2023 11:26

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 11/02/2023 11:24

I agree. In reality whatever you think of the police investigation, they know more than you will. Not everything the police know will be public, as it shouldn't be.

And we all know that! It is discussed on the thread many times!
Not once did we try and say we know more than the police and everything should be in the public domain.

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confounded234 · 11/02/2023 11:26

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 11/02/2023 11:24

I agree. In reality whatever you think of the police investigation, they know more than you will. Not everything the police know will be public, as it shouldn't be.

No one is saying that. However it appears Paul does not know any more than the public and has received no additional information. If the police do know more than they are saying, and frankly I doubt that, then they are keeping it from the family too

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 11/02/2023 11:24

Blughbablugh · 11/02/2023 11:03

People are treating this like some csi drama rather than it actually being about a poor family's hellish reality. All of the amateur armchair detectives is quite frankly disgusting. I'm glad mumsnet hae taken the threads down!

I agree. In reality whatever you think of the police investigation, they know more than you will. Not everything the police know will be public, as it shouldn't be.

ofwarren · 11/02/2023 11:23

DogInATent · 11/02/2023 11:21

Was that the tarot reading thread?
Tbh, all these threads end up attracting the Conspiracy Miss Marples with their ghoulish crackpot theories.

No, just a general news thread on the news board.

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ofwarren · 11/02/2023 11:22

confounded234 · 11/02/2023 11:21

Given the profound lack of confidence in the police investigation expressed by Paul, I think it’s important that in a democratic society there should be opportunities for the public to express doubts and expose holes in official narratives, so long as nothing libellous is mentioned. If the public can’t do that then we are heading towards authoritarianism where questions official narratives can result in punishment from the state. It’s a slippery slope

This, exactly

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DogInATent · 11/02/2023 11:21

Was that the tarot reading thread?
Tbh, all these threads end up attracting the Conspiracy Miss Marples with their ghoulish crackpot theories.

confounded234 · 11/02/2023 11:21

Given the profound lack of confidence in the police investigation expressed by Paul, I think it’s important that in a democratic society there should be opportunities for the public to express doubts and expose holes in official narratives, so long as nothing libellous is mentioned. If the public can’t do that then we are heading towards authoritarianism where questions official narratives can result in punishment from the state. It’s a slippery slope

Fancysauce · 11/02/2023 11:19

These threads are unnecessary and just full of people picking apart every last detail like they think they're detectives or something, with no appreciation for the fact there is a real family who are missing nicola. There's nothing to be gained from armchair sleuths grubbing for every little detail.

LizzieSiddal · 11/02/2023 11:19

I saw the thread last night. There are some posters who seem to have very low comprehension skills (ie watched the documentary and misinterpret every little thing as an “clue” and decide to spew their unhinged theories in pubic. I’m very glad MNHQ have put a stop to it.

confounded234 · 11/02/2023 11:16

Seems to a lot of mutistage announcing and flouncing going on….

PurpleButterflyWings · 11/02/2023 11:15

And I shall start by hiding THIS thread!

PurpleButterflyWings · 11/02/2023 11:15

Blughbablugh · 11/02/2023 11:03

People are treating this like some csi drama rather than it actually being about a poor family's hellish reality. All of the amateur armchair detectives is quite frankly disgusting. I'm glad mumsnet hae taken the threads down!

100% this. ^ I am actually seriously disturbed and disgusted by all these threads tbh and the vile accusations and conspiracy theories from SOME posters, and hope mumsnet take any further threads down. NOTHING new has been found, and nobody on here knows ANYTHING about what happened, and yet they act like they are all know-alls and experts, and they know more than the police.

I shall bow out of this thread now. Said my piece, and any threads that come up that are started by this same poster, I shall instantly hide, as I find them quite distasteful and grim.

EarringsandLipstick · 11/02/2023 11:13

That I don't believe there needs to be any more threads on this case.

I agree purple

EarringsandLipstick · 11/02/2023 11:13

The problem, in addition to the speculative & voyeuristic posts, is that there has really nothing meaningful to say now - sadly, Nicola is missing for a period of weeks now, a resolution is unlikely to come soon, and the commentary (even when not intended to) is getting more bizarre and less based on any reality.

Posters cannot seem to understand that the police will have considerably more information than is available to the general public. They also persist in thinking these threads somehow 'help' the investigation. They do not.

ofwarren · 11/02/2023 11:13

PurpleButterflyWings · 11/02/2023 11:11

I am stating my OPINION. That I don't believe there needs to be any more threads on this case. The one last night (Number SEVEN!) got ridiculously out of hand with some vile comments.

Well many people disagree with you, and that's their OPINION too. Your OPINION doesn't trump theirs.

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confounded234 · 11/02/2023 11:12

There seems to a be a fair amount of confusion now about what happened between 9.10 and when the police were called at around 11. Paul says he went there, started looking with other people then they called the police. The narrative before was that the person who found the phone told s family member who then rang the school at 10.50 who then immediately rang Paul. These 2 accounts don’t sound very compatible

PurpleButterflyWings · 11/02/2023 11:11

ofwarren · 11/02/2023 11:09

You are not the forum police either, yet feel it appropriate to tell people what they can and cannot discuss.

I am stating my OPINION. That I don't believe there needs to be any more threads on this case. The one last night (Number SEVEN!) got ridiculously out of hand with some vile comments.

ofwarren · 11/02/2023 11:09

PurpleButterflyWings · 11/02/2023 11:04

Well I disagree with you, and I AM entitled to my opinion.

And I WILL use capital letters whenever it suits me. You are NOT the forum police.

You are not the forum police either, yet feel it appropriate to tell people what they can and cannot discuss.

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Activelyannoyed · 11/02/2023 11:08

Bluebellwood129 · 11/02/2023 10:39

@PurpleButterflyWings I disagree about whether a new thread is needed. Other forums are managing to retain balanced discussed on the topic with diligent moderation. There's no reason why MN should be any different.

Totally agree with you. It would be beyond ludicrous if this was the only forum that it wasn’t allowed to be discussed. A woman missing, and a forum predominantly made up of female members. Of course we should be able to discuss.

i really don’t understand those salivatingly reading every word and kicking off saying we should be silenced. They must have stayed up late to do it too. And straight back on this morning drooling over it. Utter obsession.

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