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ofwarren · 11/02/2023 09:26

Hi,

The Nicola Bulley thread must have been hidden overnight by nightwatch. I wasn't on it at the time to see what happened.
Are we allowed the post back or are we not allowed to discuss it now?

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EarringsandLipstick · 11/02/2023 12:27

Why on earth do you think you should be able to influence what other people talk about?

Why shouldn't I??🤔 I'm offering an alternative opinion to those who believe endless speculation is appropriate.

Why does that opinion not count equally?

EarringsandLipstick · 11/02/2023 12:26

There was plenty to discuss

Plenty to speculate and gossip about, I think you mean - this is a tragic case for a family and her close friends. Why do you think it's appropriate to post endlessly on it - on 7 threads?

confounded234 · 11/02/2023 12:25

DontGoBreakingMyHeart · 11/02/2023 12:11

It’s high time these threads were removed.

There isn’t actually anything to discuss any more. Any discussion about this is pure gossip and speculation.

And given the family have seemingly started taking part in independent documentaries already, if the police aren’t telling the family anything, then it’s not hard to see why.

Yet here you are speculating and insinuating

EarringsandLipstick · 11/02/2023 12:24

Imagine thinking people shouldn't discuss a case which is on the front page of every newspaper

Actually it is not. The case is now being given a certain amount of attention & updates by the media - most of it - and is not front & centre of every bulletin.

Precisely as it's a tragic family matter, and while at some point, there will be an update and hopefully outcome, there is little new to report at this point.

(The prurient media is of course inappropriately milking the situation)

Alliwantistobe · 11/02/2023 12:23

I don't think it seems quick. Theyre in a routine and she arrives home at the same time so he knew something was wrong.

My DM gets to my house at 4.15 every day. If she hadn't arrived by 4.45 I would be ringing to check she's ok. If there was no answer and still no sign of her by 5, I would be gone to look for her.

PinkTonic · 11/02/2023 12:23

EarringsandLipstick · 11/02/2023 12:20

It's an active case! Of course there are things to discuss.

Exactly.

It is an active case. Not entertainment. And while at times, commentary in the public domain is warranted, a live, ongoing case, with a family in the throes of the worst moments of their lives at the centre, is not that time, and not for you to discuss obsessively as you have done, sadly.

It’s not your job to decide what’s appropriate to discuss. If you don’t want to partake, just don’t. Why on earth do you think you should be able to influence what other people talk about?

EarringsandLipstick · 11/02/2023 12:22

Lavenderzen · 11/02/2023 12:16

Everyone is at liberty to discuss this case. It is all over the news and papers. If you don't like it just walk on by.

A tired lazy response. People are also entitled to express their discomfort at the existence and prevalence of these threads & not be expected just to 'hide' it or walk by.

ofwarren · 11/02/2023 12:20

milkyaqua · 11/02/2023 12:18

But what else is anyone going to say that hasn't already been said 6000 times before?

It's an ongoing case!
New information comes/came to light. The red van, the details of when and where the phone was.
There was plenty to discuss, that's why we were on thread 7.

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EarringsandLipstick · 11/02/2023 12:20

milkyaqua · 11/02/2023 12:16

You don't think 6000 plus posts in these threads alone on the topic is enough? If people are so 'concerned" they can light a candle and say a prayer. It's bullshit. A missing most probably dead woman is not entertainment.

Absolutely this.

EarringsandLipstick · 11/02/2023 12:20

It's an active case! Of course there are things to discuss.

Exactly.

It is an active case. Not entertainment. And while at times, commentary in the public domain is warranted, a live, ongoing case, with a family in the throes of the worst moments of their lives at the centre, is not that time, and not for you to discuss obsessively as you have done, sadly.

ofwarren · 11/02/2023 12:19

milkyaqua · 11/02/2023 12:16

You don't think 6000 plus posts in these threads alone on the topic is enough? If people are so 'concerned" they can light a candle and say a prayer. It's bullshit. A missing most probably dead woman is not entertainment.

Imagine thinking people shouldn't discuss a case which is on the front page of every newspaper and is on a prime time tv documentary 🙄

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milkyaqua · 11/02/2023 12:18

But what else is anyone going to say that hasn't already been said 6000 times before?

WhoNeedsSleepNotISaidMyBody · 11/02/2023 12:17

ofwarren · 11/02/2023 10:06

@mumsnet if you are deleting whole threads because some people start accusing family members, it will mean that any discussion of the case gets pulled by derailers who don't want us to talk about it. All they have to do is post "x person done it" and they can effectively get the whole thread removed.
How is that fair?
Delete the individual posts, not the whole thing!

@MNHQ

Totally agree with this. Certain people are detailing the threads on purpose to get the threads pulled.

other than them the threads are respectful, abiding by what the family have asked for & your guidelines.

can
you please just delete their disruptive posts & not delete ehi threads.

please.

Lavenderzen · 11/02/2023 12:16

Everyone is at liberty to discuss this case. It is all over the news and papers. If you don't like it just walk on by.

PinkTonic · 11/02/2023 12:16

electricmoccasins · 11/02/2023 12:07

It does work. PA said NB usually returned from the dog walk about 9.45-10.00. He said at 10.15, he wasn’t unduly worried as she might have been chatting to someone. At around 10.30, he decided to call her phone. He phoned her mobile and WhatsApp several times to no answer. He then began to prepare to go out to meet her when his phone rang at 10.50. It was the school saying her phone had been found and her dog loose.

30-45 mins seems very quick to be checking someone’s whereabouts and preparing to go out looking for them doesn’t it?

Anyway, I think discussion and conjecture is a natural human response and the number of members who now seem to think it’s appropriate to police the threads expressing disgust, reporting everything they disapprove of and getting their own way is far more concerning than the ones who maybe cross a line now and again. Just delete those.

milkyaqua · 11/02/2023 12:16

You don't think 6000 plus posts in these threads alone on the topic is enough? If people are so 'concerned" they can light a candle and say a prayer. It's bullshit. A missing most probably dead woman is not entertainment.

plumduck · 11/02/2023 12:15

The police asked for no speculation.

LadyWiddiothethird · 11/02/2023 12:13

About time they were taken down.Should have been deleted way before now.

ofwarren · 11/02/2023 12:13

DontGoBreakingMyHeart · 11/02/2023 12:11

It’s high time these threads were removed.

There isn’t actually anything to discuss any more. Any discussion about this is pure gossip and speculation.

And given the family have seemingly started taking part in independent documentaries already, if the police aren’t telling the family anything, then it’s not hard to see why.

Nothing to discuss anymore? It's an active case! Of course there are things to discuss.

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DontGoBreakingMyHeart · 11/02/2023 12:11

It’s high time these threads were removed.

There isn’t actually anything to discuss any more. Any discussion about this is pure gossip and speculation.

And given the family have seemingly started taking part in independent documentaries already, if the police aren’t telling the family anything, then it’s not hard to see why.

Newtonsnipple · 11/02/2023 12:09

justgettingthroughtheday · 11/02/2023 12:05

@ofwarren I was on the thread at the time it was taken down. There was a lot of nastiness between two posters (two who had already been at each other on previous threads) as well as suggestions of specific individuals being involved.
It's a shame as I felt the threads were a useful source of information and place to discuss our concerns about the case. I hope they reinstate the thread and delete the offensive posts

Same.

To be honest the obsessives constantly trying to police ANY discussion around this case seem just as angry and unhinged as the 'I saw his eye twitch at 9.32 pm and that's why he did it' ones.

There are some legitimate fears and sympathy people have for Nicola and her family. There are also legitimate criticisms to be made around some of the police communication/inconsistencies ijn this case, which the public should also be allowed to discuss.

Zosime · 11/02/2023 12:09

What they don’t want is people... throwing hurtful accusations about

Which is exactly what has been happening on these threads. I think mnhq should have been more proactive several threads ago, rather than leaving it up to posters to report speculation and accusations.

electricmoccasins · 11/02/2023 12:07

confounded234 · 11/02/2023 11:12

There seems to a be a fair amount of confusion now about what happened between 9.10 and when the police were called at around 11. Paul says he went there, started looking with other people then they called the police. The narrative before was that the person who found the phone told s family member who then rang the school at 10.50 who then immediately rang Paul. These 2 accounts don’t sound very compatible

It does work. PA said NB usually returned from the dog walk about 9.45-10.00. He said at 10.15, he wasn’t unduly worried as she might have been chatting to someone. At around 10.30, he decided to call her phone. He phoned her mobile and WhatsApp several times to no answer. He then began to prepare to go out to meet her when his phone rang at 10.50. It was the school saying her phone had been found and her dog loose.

justgettingthroughtheday · 11/02/2023 12:05

@ofwarren I was on the thread at the time it was taken down. There was a lot of nastiness between two posters (two who had already been at each other on previous threads) as well as suggestions of specific individuals being involved.
It's a shame as I felt the threads were a useful source of information and place to discuss our concerns about the case. I hope they reinstate the thread and delete the offensive posts

JackieDaws · 11/02/2023 11:57

confounded234 · 11/02/2023 11:21

Given the profound lack of confidence in the police investigation expressed by Paul, I think it’s important that in a democratic society there should be opportunities for the public to express doubts and expose holes in official narratives, so long as nothing libellous is mentioned. If the public can’t do that then we are heading towards authoritarianism where questions official narratives can result in punishment from the state. It’s a slippery slope

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It's just a thread. And this is the funniest excuse I've ever seen to carry on gossiping and rumour-mongering.

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