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ofwarren · 11/02/2023 09:26

Hi,

The Nicola Bulley thread must have been hidden overnight by nightwatch. I wasn't on it at the time to see what happened.
Are we allowed the post back or are we not allowed to discuss it now?

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PAFMO · 12/02/2023 06:55

Meltedcheeses · 11/02/2023 23:10

These threads and @ofwarren etc have really disturbed me. It is very dark and I fear the real reason they'd rather chat here than Facebook is the anonymity...the lack of empathy and understanding does chill me. I wish MN would remove these threads....it breeds sickness in those who obviously have mental health issues already.

Agreed. It's like they're playing Cluedo in real time. They don't even see what their threads and posts look like to outsiders.
@YetAnotherBeckyMumsnet seriously, have a good read of the threads. It's like being plunged into a Murder Mystery Weekend jolly.
Very disturbing.

milkyaqua · 11/02/2023 23:29

*particularly

JaneJeffer · 11/02/2023 23:22

unhinged obsessive women of not paricularly high intellect

They are unhinged

Remind us who the nasty people are again?

Meltedcheeses · 11/02/2023 23:10

These threads and @ofwarren etc have really disturbed me. It is very dark and I fear the real reason they'd rather chat here than Facebook is the anonymity...the lack of empathy and understanding does chill me. I wish MN would remove these threads....it breeds sickness in those who obviously have mental health issues already.

PAFMO · 11/02/2023 23:06

Don't the police look at people with unhealthy obsessions with ongoing cases to see if...well, y'know.
Night all. Don't have nightmares.

milkyaqua · 11/02/2023 23:03

No, but I can direct you to Websleuths, where similarly unhinged obsessive women of not paricularly high intellect and no police or forensic experience also believe they know more than the professionals actually involved with a case, and/or have a sick obsession with how sad it is, which they state rather piously but with gruesome relish over and over, on countless linked threads.

PAFMO · 11/02/2023 23:01

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ofwarren · 11/02/2023 22:59

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PAFMO · 11/02/2023 22:59

Even Reddit is moderating the salivating threads full of speculation and tricoteuses. Reddit.

MN were very quick always to nip speculation in the bud about Madeleine McCann but it seems like NB (and her family) is fair game for the sickos.

I've been here 20 years and these threads are repulsive. Dressing their excitement up as concern is a thin veneer and HQ really need to do something about them. They are unhinged.

milkyaqua · 11/02/2023 22:54

WhoNeedsSleepNotISaidMyBody · 11/02/2023 22:16

who knows, we'll never know if people get the threads deleted.

People that 'don't approve' can act their age & scroll on instead of acting like 10 year olds with no self regulation.

I would say the dysregulated are those casting potentially defamatory aspersions on the husband and/or those wringing their hands at his unimaginable grief - meanwhile caring not a whitt that over 20,000 people have been killed in recent earthquakes and some, including infants, are still buried alive over 100 hours later.

I am only aware of these threads in that I thought initially they must have some news I'd not seen, then when it appeared in trending, checked in to was it (to my surprise) thread 5 or 6, again thinking well, news must have broken re this missing woman. No, see above.

WhoNeedsSleepNotISaidMyBody · 11/02/2023 22:16

milkyaqua · 11/02/2023 12:18

But what else is anyone going to say that hasn't already been said 6000 times before?

who knows, we'll never know if people get the threads deleted.

People that 'don't approve' can act their age & scroll on instead of acting like 10 year olds with no self regulation.

ImprobablePuffin · 11/02/2023 18:45

Daffodilis · 11/02/2023 15:35

These threads are just shite for gossips, people getting their rocks off at others misery, whatever excuses you can muster are pathetic, shame on you all.

You think people are getting sexually aroused by these threads? Really? If that's where your mind goes I think it says more about you than people commenting on the threads.

Shame on us for discussing a news story that is being widely discussed, that the family themselves have said they want to remain in the public eye?

Shame on you for thinking you have the right to vilify people because they're talking about something you deem unworthy of discussion.

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Thatcatisdrivingmenuts · 11/02/2023 18:30

I'm not keen on threads like this. Most people are sensible, but speculation of this sort encourages the types who were making a nuisance of themselves on site. If nothing else, it contributes. That'll my only comment.

JaneJeffer · 11/02/2023 18:28

Calling people thick, making definitive allegations against others including the family and anyone associated with the situation without any evidence and claiming those opinions as facts... I am not going to continue this debate any further, but the fact that some people view such toxic behaviour as acceptable is perhaps saying more about what MN has become than about the case in question.
I haven't done any of those things and anyone who did had their post deleted.

Mumsnet said We have not stopped MNers discussing the investigation nor speculating (as that's all that can be done right now) so I'm sure they are going to remove anything which contravenes their guidelines.

ImprobablePuffin · 11/02/2023 18:00

It pisses me off when people automatically assume anyone reading the threads is there for 'entertainment and enjoyment' as has been mentioned countless times.

I've followed all seven threads and commented too. At no point was I sat there thinking 'ooh what fun this is'. It's just a baffling and upsetting case involving a woman so many of us can identify with and relate to.

And let's not forget, the family said themselves they want people talking about it to keep it in the forefront of peoples minds. What they don't want is wild speculation involving specific individuals that would be hurtful to the family.

I also notice all of the people on the thread saying how vile we all are for talking about it are also there, reading, commenting and yet are far superior to everyone else, obviously.

Thank you @ofwarren for the threads and hopefully we will be able to continue discussions in a civilised fashion as is our right.

Quveas · 11/02/2023 17:57

JaneJeffer · 11/02/2023 15:23

You're totally exaggerating @Quveas and the threads are there for anyone to see that for themselves.

I think you are failing to appreciate that not everyone agrees with you. Perhaps we have different tolerances about what we consider toxic or nasty, but it is certainly not an exaggeration. I am not a liar, and this is what I have felt about the threads. So have others. If you don't think the same that is your right - but I am also entitled to my view. Calling people thick, making definitive allegations against others including the family and anyone associated with the situation without any evidence and claiming those opinions as facts... I am not going to continue this debate any further, but the fact that some people view such toxic behaviour as acceptable is perhaps saying more about what MN has become than about the case in question.

ofwarren · 11/02/2023 17:31

BeigeCar · 11/02/2023 17:21

@ofwarren are you planning to give a new News thread a go?

Someone else has opened another one with the same title. It's in News

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BeigeCar · 11/02/2023 17:21

@ofwarren are you planning to give a new News thread a go?

Shewasnthere · 11/02/2023 16:35

@lemmein maybe, but it wasn't a live interview, and if like another poster said, that they would have gone through the questions, they would have a clear end to the interview, "will you be ok?" And the awkwardness on both sides that followed just didnt make sense to me as an end, in a case like this. Dan looked visibly uncomfortable as he said it. I could be over thinking that particular part though.

lemmein · 11/02/2023 16:06

Shewasnthere · 11/02/2023 16:00

@Bluebellwood129 hmm, I see what you're saying. Just felt like a bit of an odd question. Because as a general assumption - someone missing someone close to them likely won't be ok. And every one else would already know that/assume that.

But yes I agree with you, it definitely did.

I think Dan didn't know how to end the conversation so just blurted it out awkwardly - I bet he's cringing about it today.

Shewasnthere · 11/02/2023 16:00

@Bluebellwood129 hmm, I see what you're saying. Just felt like a bit of an odd question. Because as a general assumption - someone missing someone close to them likely won't be ok. And every one else would already know that/assume that.

But yes I agree with you, it definitely did.

beccahamlet · 11/02/2023 15:48

I think that's massively relevant.

Alliwantistobe · 11/02/2023 15:46

@beccahamlet she is a very strong swimmer

beccahamlet · 11/02/2023 15:45

I haven't read all the posts on this topic, but has anyone heard about Nicola's water/swimming skills?

Thinking about my friends and family I would have a fair idea about who would have a good chance of getting out and who would be more likely to come to grief.

Bluebellwood129 · 11/02/2023 15:37

@Shewasnthere Was Dan just trying to illustrate the emotional burden on Paul? I'm sure Paul would have been consulted about all of the content and the questions asked.
For me, the programme highlighted so many more opportunities for third party involvement than I'd previously considered possible.