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What is this ‘You might also like’ clutter?

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PalatineHill · 15/11/2022 14:07

Hi MNHQ. Please just take it out. Or let me opt out of it? It looks a mess.

If here’s something that I might also like to read, I’ll find it by using the search function.
These suggestions are just encouraging the posting of the same points on multiple similar threads, and that will discourage healthy normal thread death.

It’s really distracting to look at visually, I really liked the uncluttered ‘clean’ MN format compared to other forums.

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MissMarpleRocks · 17/11/2022 13:06

Plingston · 17/11/2022 12:29

To be honest, I'm insanely glad of this feature right now if this is what has caused so many old threads to appear lately. About a month ago, there was a long thread which appeared in trending where the poster had a large mass in her breast and was concerned about it.

I'd been brushing off a lump in my breast which was so large I could see it for a few weeks. I'm in my early thirties and cancer wasn't even on my radar. I thought it was a cyst and had no intention of wasting any time on it. It turns out that I do have a nasty form of breast cancer and I'm starting chemo in two weeks. I would never have even visited the GP if it wasn't for that old thread being bumped. There are no guarantees with cancer but there is a chance that it's actually saved my life.

I know it's annoying for everyone else but old threads can still be very relevant to people now and I am so, so grateful that I happened to read that thread and decide to see the GP after all.

Good luck 💐💐💐. I’m glad it’s helped you. That’s a positive.

JaneJeffer · 17/11/2022 13:05

If I wanted to read really out of date stuff, I'd just read the same Take A Break over and over.
Grin it's the MN waiting room

itsthefinalcountdown1 · 17/11/2022 13:04

Two whole people like the feature. Great.

If I wanted to read really out of date stuff, I'd just read the same Take A Break over and over.

I cant join in discussions on the 10 threads I've tried to today that were all months (or years) old from TRENDING.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 17/11/2022 12:57

LookItsMeAgain · 17/11/2022 09:36

If they do that, I'll not be subscribing to Premium. I'll just stop posting (as I think a lot of others will do).

They are aware that there is a cost of living crisis at the moment and paying for an online subscription is VERY low on the list of priorities at the moment for people????

Yes. I use an Adblocker but as I spend a lot of time on Mumsnet and appreciate I'm getting it for nothing and they do have to pay the bills I've switched off my Adblocker for this site. That's as far as I can go to help Mumsnet out. If the site becomes unusable or dull because there are hardly any new interesting threads, I will spend less time here, and I won't be alone, which will hit their advertising revenue very hard.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 17/11/2022 12:45

Goodness, @Plingston, what a shock, but I'm glad you're now getting treatment. Every best wish for the future. Flowers

Plingston · 17/11/2022 12:29

To be honest, I'm insanely glad of this feature right now if this is what has caused so many old threads to appear lately. About a month ago, there was a long thread which appeared in trending where the poster had a large mass in her breast and was concerned about it.

I'd been brushing off a lump in my breast which was so large I could see it for a few weeks. I'm in my early thirties and cancer wasn't even on my radar. I thought it was a cyst and had no intention of wasting any time on it. It turns out that I do have a nasty form of breast cancer and I'm starting chemo in two weeks. I would never have even visited the GP if it wasn't for that old thread being bumped. There are no guarantees with cancer but there is a chance that it's actually saved my life.

I know it's annoying for everyone else but old threads can still be very relevant to people now and I am so, so grateful that I happened to read that thread and decide to see the GP after all.

HelensToenail · 17/11/2022 12:20

LookItsMeAgain · 17/11/2022 12:13

Calling it "Similar Threads" instead of "You might also like" is like sticking a plaster over something that requires major surgery.

Please just remove it.

Or if it stays, lock threads that haven't been replied to in the past 90 days.

Or least lock those threads as a temporary interim measure to clear Active threads until the 'tweaking' is complete

Another helpful interim measure would be to re-instate the date threads were started on Active

stuntbubbles · 17/11/2022 12:19

Aaaargh, have twice today fallen for joining in a good thread only to realise it’s from months ago and probably only showed up in Active because of this fucking feature.

If I want info/recommendations, I Google the topic and add “Mumsnet” and get what I need. If I want a chat bunfight and place to express stupid opinions I’m after live, fast-moving stuff, not something someone idly wondered in May and has long since forgotten about.

TimBoothseyes · 17/11/2022 12:18

LilyMumsnet · 17/11/2022 10:21

Hi all

We're sorry about that. We have removed Black Mumsnetters from the suggested thread feature now.

We're still in the process of tweaking this feature but we are listening to all of your feedback.

Why doesn't MNHQ remove the whole thing rather than just come back with "we'll remove this...oh and we'll remove this one as well.....oh and this one.....this ones going as well", eventually you'll be removing so many that you may has well removed the entire thing in the first place.

TwoRockSalmonAndAHaporthOfChips · 17/11/2022 12:15

Some of the ‘similar threads’ are wildly off, in addition to the other issues we’ve all clearly articulate so far.

A thread about avoiding ‘the twitch’ on the Christmas forum (the urge to continue buying more presents) pulls up some others which are genuinely on the same thing, but then also one related to health, and one to a broadcasting platform. So really not much help to readers.

What is this ‘You might also like’ clutter?
DappledThings · 17/11/2022 12:15

PalatineHill · 17/11/2022 12:10

MNHQ unfortunately changing the description hasn’t fixed the problem.

On the Christmas shopping threads, posts go out of date incredibly fast.. same with Black Friday shopping.. politics… telly episodes chat.. threads asking for latest covid information.. they aren’t ‘Similar Threads’ to the current one, any more. Posters need to be able to stick to the most relevant up to date thread, if you want users to be able to find useful information about that topic.

Exactly.

It's all based on a fundamental mismatch between what 90% of users come to the forums for and what HQ seem to want it to be for. The talk forums are not about gathering information. They are live, new conversations. Some are long-running but continuously so, so aren't ever zombies.

I've been here for years and years and it took very little time for me to spot that anyone bumping a zombie to ask a question relevant to their own situation was either ignored or politely and firmly told to start their own thread. Other forums seem to be based more on bumping being how things work. Not round here!

LookItsMeAgain · 17/11/2022 12:13

LilyMumsnet · 17/11/2022 10:21

Hi all

We're sorry about that. We have removed Black Mumsnetters from the suggested thread feature now.

We're still in the process of tweaking this feature but we are listening to all of your feedback.

Calling it "Similar Threads" instead of "You might also like" is like sticking a plaster over something that requires major surgery.

Please just remove it.

Or if it stays, lock threads that haven't been replied to in the past 90 days.

PalatineHill · 17/11/2022 12:10

MNHQ unfortunately changing the description hasn’t fixed the problem.

On the Christmas shopping threads, posts go out of date incredibly fast.. same with Black Friday shopping.. politics… telly episodes chat.. threads asking for latest covid information.. they aren’t ‘Similar Threads’ to the current one, any more. Posters need to be able to stick to the most relevant up to date thread, if you want users to be able to find useful information about that topic.

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EmmaAgain22 · 17/11/2022 11:45

Sparklingbrook · 17/11/2022 11:43

I have found a positive. I have a day off and rather than scroll Mumsnet drinking tea I’ve already cleaned a bathroom, the kitchen and done 2 loads of washing. 👍

😂😂😂
I cba scrolling because everything's a zombie.

Sparklingbrook · 17/11/2022 11:43

I have found a positive. I have a day off and rather than scroll Mumsnet drinking tea I’ve already cleaned a bathroom, the kitchen and done 2 loads of washing. 👍

PalatineHill · 17/11/2022 11:33

Thanks for coming back LilyMumsnet. I think most regular posters want the site to be the best and most used it can be, so saying all this with love…

As others have said, the other points raised here on the thread won’t be fixed by taking YMAL off specific threads, unfortunately. Hence most people asking for the feature to be removed entirely. Hopefully that option is still on the table?

As PP have said, MN is in quite a unusual
position with the user relationships to its site, which is a strength to hang on to. A more visible and collaborative approach to UX with existing users would be really great, however informal or formal and organised you’d want that to be. (I’ll leave the tricky question of paid/unpaid feedback aside for now!).

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AmaryllisNightAndDay · 17/11/2022 11:10

I find it distressing. I do look at quite a lot of political stuff and when I am dealing with things on one thread I don't want to have more of it pushed at me from old threads. The titles tend to be quite anxiety-provoking. To be fair the old threads can be informative and I would be happy to have a "see similar" button, but I really don't want the list of titles pushed at me.

MissMarpleRocks · 17/11/2022 11:07

Out of interest why isn’t MN listening @LilyMumsnet

DappledThings · 17/11/2022 11:07

WhatTheHellIsAQuasar · 17/11/2022 10:50

Well clearly you aren’t listening at all are you?

Not in the least. Or if they are they clearly have no intention of acting on any of the feedback that overwhelmingly says GET RID OF IT.

Or even answering the questions on why it was introduced, what testing if any it went through and why they aren't considering removing it.

It has happened once that I recall that a new "feature" was so hated it was removed and that was the skim links a year or so ago. So I have a teeny hope they might actually roll this back too.

TrashyPanda · 17/11/2022 11:06

unfortunateevents · 17/11/2022 10:36

@LilyMumsnet oh but while you are tweaking maybe you could lock some of the old threads which are now occupying several of the trending spaces this morning? There is a thread about a lunch which happened in September and which people are still posting on, despite it having been pointed out several times this morning that it is a zombie. I have to admit, it doesn't paint posters in a particularly good light either - they have obviously only bothered to read the initial post and weighed in with their response.

That thread currently has 117 posts.

27 of these were posted today

Hoppinggreen · 17/11/2022 11:00

ZeroFuchsGiven · 17/11/2022 10:58

I read that as stop twerking 😂

Well that too
If fact @LilyMumsnet
Do nothing before scrapping the whole shit idea - then twerk to your heart’s content !!

ZeroFuchsGiven · 17/11/2022 10:58

Hoppinggreen · 17/11/2022 10:57

Stop tweaking and start removing @LilyMumsnet

I read that as stop twerking 😂

Hoppinggreen · 17/11/2022 10:57

Stop tweaking and start removing @LilyMumsnet

WhatTheHellIsAQuasar · 17/11/2022 10:50

Well clearly you aren’t listening at all are you?

MissMarpleRocks · 17/11/2022 10:48

unfortunateevents · 17/11/2022 10:36

@LilyMumsnet oh but while you are tweaking maybe you could lock some of the old threads which are now occupying several of the trending spaces this morning? There is a thread about a lunch which happened in September and which people are still posting on, despite it having been pointed out several times this morning that it is a zombie. I have to admit, it doesn't paint posters in a particularly good light either - they have obviously only bothered to read the initial post and weighed in with their response.

I realised it was from September about half way through. I finished I posted & asked if op had gone. As well as I saying another annoying resurrected thread as some posters were annoyed it was a zombie thread.