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What is this ‘You might also like’ clutter?

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PalatineHill · 15/11/2022 14:07

Hi MNHQ. Please just take it out. Or let me opt out of it? It looks a mess.

If here’s something that I might also like to read, I’ll find it by using the search function.
These suggestions are just encouraging the posting of the same points on multiple similar threads, and that will discourage healthy normal thread death.

It’s really distracting to look at visually, I really liked the uncluttered ‘clean’ MN format compared to other forums.

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daisychain01 · 18/11/2022 16:12

Skinnermarink · 18/11/2022 16:10

HAHAHA

OK. Mumsnet hates it’s actual members then. We can all get in the sea 🤣

For which the emoji "Facepalm" was actually invented🙈

BIWI · 18/11/2022 16:11

We introduced this feature because a huge amount of visitors to MN (around 50%) arrive from unbranded search (ie they type query into Google and end up on a Mumsnet thread); showing similar threads improves that experience, as it makes it more likely they'll find the answer to their query - and it's being used a lot so we do think it's a useful feature

So it's 'new customers only' then?

daisychain01 · 18/11/2022 16:11

I don't like to cast doubt on your numbers, but you seriously are saying that the increase in zombie threads in Active increased from 3% to 4%, yet regular posters were complaining that Active was over run with Zombies?

I question those %, and of course any % can be bandied about willy nilly with no ability to prove otherwise.

Skinnermarink · 18/11/2022 16:10

HAHAHA

OK. Mumsnet hates it’s actual members then. We can all get in the sea 🤣

daisychain01 · 18/11/2022 16:09

Sigh, it's not going away then. Talk about ignoring actual specific feedback from users that the feature is not useful nor an enhancing experience for loyal readers.

A bit like banks and insurance companies who place significant efforts on getting new business (people randomly Googling and ending up on MN arent likely to be existing loyal regulars) and place no value on the needs of people who are on here regularly, some for over a decade. Instead we are unpaid unwitting testers highlighting a feature that is poorly designed and inflicted on us. All a bit lalalalalalala [fingers in ears].

Meanwhile a feature that is requested time after time after time, the edit functionality is ignored and kicked into the long grass. Poor show.

BruceAndNosh · 18/11/2022 16:04

We introduced this feature because a huge amount of visitors to MN (around 50%) arrive from unbranded search (ie they type query into Google and end up on a Mumsnet thread); showing similar threads improves that experience, as it makes it more likely they'll find the answer to their query - and it's being used a lot so we do think it's a useful feature.
So you've set up a system geared towards those who haven't a clue what mumsnet is, or how it works, so that they can bump zombie threads?
They can't bump them by merely reading them, they have to register and post on them...
And I understand that it's been difficult to open a new account because of efforts to Troll proof the site

I don't like to cast doubt on your numbers, but you seriously are saying that the increase in zombie threads in Active increased from 3% to 4%, yet regular posters were complaining that Active was over run with Zombies?

JustineMumsnet · 18/11/2022 15:53

Hello everyone - just been having a read of this.

First thing to say is that we've been tweaking the formula in response to your feedback so that older threads get an even lower weighting that they did. That's caused some re-processing which is why it's not appearing on every thread at the moment - not because we've removed it.

We've also excluded some more topics as well as some types of threads/ key words. Thanks again for the feedback on those.

We introduced this feature because a huge amount of visitors to MN (around 50%) arrive from unbranded search (ie they type query into Google and end up on a Mumsnet thread); showing similar threads improves that experience, as it makes it more likely they'll find the answer to their query - and it's being used a lot so we do think it's a useful feature.

But we obviously don't want to make the user experience worse for those who tend to use Active as a home page. According to the data there has been a small rise in zombie threads appearing in Active since launch of similar threads (4% of Active threads are those not posted on for 6 months s vs 3% prior to launch, and 10% of threads not posted on for 30 days vs 6% pre-launch). It's clear from this discussion that some folks really, really don't like these older threads appearing in Active at all, so we're going to think about how we can address this - either via further tweaks in the formula, or by highlighting when a thread hasn't been posted on for a while and/or via a user setting for excluding older threads in Active altogether. We'll come back to you with an update on that asap. Thanks meantime for the input.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 18/11/2022 15:45

(Parody account, I think, now I have checked, but the way things are going over there ...)

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 18/11/2022 15:41

Could be something like this! (Assuming this is genuine, which I haven't checked.)

What is this ‘You might also like’ clutter?
Itwasntevenblackpudding · 18/11/2022 15:38

Maybe there is no response because the MN offices have been locked? 😂

LookItsMeAgain · 18/11/2022 15:32

BruceAndNosh · 18/11/2022 15:02

I think MNHQ has been reading Elon Musk's new book "How to wreck your social media site without really trying"

😂 😂 😂

You may have something there 😆

daisychain01 · 18/11/2022 15:06

"We think you may also like this" clusterfck

BruceAndNosh · 18/11/2022 15:02

I think MNHQ has been reading Elon Musk's new book "How to wreck your social media site without really trying"

Itwasntevenblackpudding · 18/11/2022 14:37

@LilyMumsnet @YetAnotherBeckyMumsnet

Considering that this topic generated so many comments and pissed so many people off, is it possible to have some sort of update?

It seems that the feature has been removed/is being phased out, in which case hurrah and thank you very much, but some sort of comment from MNHQ is warranted.

Has it been removed because of the feedback - despite the numerous MNHQ comments saying that it was "a good thing" and just needed tweaking.

Has it been removed for a different reason?

Is the removal temporary or permanent?

TrashyPanda · 18/11/2022 12:40

Very random.

will MN tell us what is happening?

MadelineUsher · 18/11/2022 12:37

There's no rhyme or reason to it. I just opened a thread from AIBU at random. There it was. It's on almost but not all the threads I have previously posted on.

BoreOfWhabylon · 18/11/2022 12:34

It seems to still be there on the ones I've already opened, but not ones that I haven't.
So, looks like MNHQ have listened Flowers
Hope someone's arse got well and truly kicked over this!

Itwasntevenblackpudding · 18/11/2022 12:22

It's still there on the bacon sandwich thread, but it does seem to have mostly disappeared. The lack of zombie threads this morning is great.

BoreOfWhabylon · 18/11/2022 11:38

Well, I've just had a look at various different boards and it seems to have disappeared...?
<reports own post to attract attention of MNHQ>

BruceAndNosh · 18/11/2022 09:48

Can somone from @MNHQ clarify if this new feature is still active or not, or on which boards?
Or don't they have a clue?

AnApparitionQuipped · 18/11/2022 09:44

EmmaAgain22 · 18/11/2022 09:23

On a personal level, it will drag up horrors that the individual wants to forget
on the Elderly Parents board, I can't look in case related threads are mine, though stuff about my late father is mostly on Life Limiting Illness...hopefully this nonsense isn't appearing there?

Threads from Life Limiting illness have been recommended on other topics - I posted upthread about one which appeared on a thread about a cat.

Hobnobswantshernameback · 18/11/2022 09:29

Are you trying to make the site as shit and unuseable as possible?
it's slow, full of shit zombie threads, AS is beyond crap, you can't seem to stop repeat trolls from spamming the place.
maybe fix some of these problems before adding even more shit features that nobody wants

EmmaAgain22 · 18/11/2022 09:23

On a personal level, it will drag up horrors that the individual wants to forget
on the Elderly Parents board, I can't look in case related threads are mine, though stuff about my late father is mostly on Life Limiting Illness...hopefully this nonsense isn't appearing there?

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 18/11/2022 09:19

On political threads the algorithm is accidentally doing the nasty clickbaity rabbithole that is so harmful on YouTube, only on MumsNet it's reviving events that happened long ago with titles that say "did you see what <terrible thing> happened today"! I'd quite like a "related threads" button but I don't want disasters from 2 years ago presented as if they are happening now.

WhatTheHellIsAQuasar · 18/11/2022 09:18

Whinge · 18/11/2022 08:51

Also under the 3 dots there's also options for top and bottom which I don't remember being there before.

I really don't understand why MNHQ don't announce changes or updates to the site. They have a site stuff section, surely it makes sense to post about these updates so users are aware of new / altered features?

The top and bottom bits aren’t new they’ve been in a while

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