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Determined, re-appearing trolls/PBPs

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BIWI · 23/10/2022 22:12

I know that TSSNCOP

But why, for the love of God, does it appear that you're unable to permanently ban the most recent, persistent trolls?

It's so wearing, frustrating and - I'm sure from your position - time-wasting.

Why is it - and it seems like it's worse since the new platform - so impossible to get shot of them?

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BIWI · 24/10/2022 11:39

That's very true. And I made the same point earlier in the thread, about ignoring them.

The point I'm making here, though, is asking what can be done about them by MNHQ.

But thanks for your helpful comment.

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WarblingEttie · 24/10/2022 11:21

Why don't you just ignore the Boris Troll - it must be loving the tizz you're getting into.

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YetAnotherBeckyMumsnet · 24/10/2022 10:42

@BIWI oh no, when MNHQ says thanks it's ALWAYS from the heart. 😁

NightmareSlashDelightful · 24/10/2022 10:19

NippyWoowoo · 24/10/2022 10:11

What does TSSDNCOP mean 😫

The Secret Service Does Not Comment On Procedure

It's a longstanding tongue-in-cheek in-joke from Ye Olden Days of MN.

vodkaredbullgirl · 24/10/2022 10:16

And the Boris troll is back AGAIN

NippyWoowoo · 24/10/2022 10:11

What does TSSDNCOP mean 😫

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BIWI · 24/10/2022 10:02

I'm sure you're not really thanking me @YetAnotherBeckyMumsnet Wink Grin

But thank you for your answer. Looks like we'll just have to suffer the troll till they get bored and shuffle off somewhere else.

If only people would ignore them on the threads, that might help!

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YetAnotherBeckyMumsnet · 24/10/2022 09:28

Hi @BIWI thanks for your questions. We'd love to be able to permanently ban trolls but, unfortunately, it's not that simple. As posters have already mentioned, IPs are rarely fixed and so banning an IP would not do much to stop them. We've spoken to community teams from other sites and found that the same trolls were doing the rounds there too. Confused

We've implemented a few tools that make it harder for trolls to cause havoc and are continuing to look at other steps we can take. We're reluctant to go into details for obvious reasons - TSSDNCOP, etc.

In the mean time, keep reporting!

42isthemeaning · 24/10/2022 08:37

Anyone can use a VPN to set up a new / different account. There are also temporary email addresses you can use and various ways of hiding IP addresses, etc, though the latter isn't necessary to keep reinventing yourself on here! Essentially if someone is determined enough, they can keep posting. Mumsnet may also have artificial intelligence software which is designed to spot PBPs, but I imagine they really need more staff to spot the trolls.

Hawkins001 · 24/10/2022 01:02

NewBootsAndRanty · 24/10/2022 01:00

He was found to have comitted a criminal offence while in office ffs.

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Hence why I said he's not a saint, but just because he's bad in one area does not automatically mean he was bad in another

NewBootsAndRanty · 24/10/2022 01:00

Hawkins001 · 24/10/2022 00:54

I know boris was not a saint, but unless we know the details of intelligence services files, then it's all based on newspapers, and subject to spin, and manipulation, and smear, etc

He was found to have comitted a criminal offence while in office ffs.

Hawkins001 · 24/10/2022 00:54

I know boris was not a saint, but unless we know the details of intelligence services files, then it's all based on newspapers, and subject to spin, and manipulation, and smear, etc

Hawkins001 · 24/10/2022 00:52

colouringindoors · 23/10/2022 23:35

One of worst death rates in Europe. Covid positive patients sent back to care homes. Late lockdowns. "Let the bodies pile high". Partied while we couldn't say goodbye, let alone bury our dead. How DARE you.

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Considering it's all based on newspapers and we all know how trust worthy and reliable they are,

ofwarren · 23/10/2022 23:40

PickAChew · 23/10/2022 23:38

If you're using mobile data, you don't have a static IP. Someone really determined to troll can just use multiple SIMs to change IP quickly and frequently.

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I never knew, I'm crap with technology.
So pathetic to go out of their way to keep making new accounts. Such a weirdo.

PickAChew · 23/10/2022 23:38

ofwarren · 23/10/2022 23:07

I don't understand how their IP isn't permanently banned. I've asked this before but never get an answer.
How are they able to create a new account?

If you're using mobile data, you don't have a static IP. Someone really determined to troll can just use multiple SIMs to change IP quickly and frequently.

colouringindoors · 23/10/2022 23:35

Hawkins001 · 23/10/2022 23:21

That's the pickle with being a leader of the country, sometimes no matter how well meaning, covid was unprecedented times.

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One of worst death rates in Europe. Covid positive patients sent back to care homes. Late lockdowns. "Let the bodies pile high". Partied while we couldn't say goodbye, let alone bury our dead. How DARE you.

Hawkins001 · 23/10/2022 23:21

colouringindoors · 23/10/2022 23:20

Seriously. The Boris fan troll is Seriously annoying at best. At worst, given all the damage and deaths many Johnson believe caused, utterly offensive and traumatising.

That's the pickle with being a leader of the country, sometimes no matter how well meaning, covid was unprecedented times.

vodkaredbullgirl · 23/10/2022 23:20

whydoesitalwayshappentome · 23/10/2022 23:18

I had a deletion email from MNHQ but I can still see the thread.

Same here

colouringindoors · 23/10/2022 23:20

Seriously. The Boris fan troll is Seriously annoying at best. At worst, given all the damage and deaths many Johnson believe caused, utterly offensive and traumatising.

ErrolTheDragon · 23/10/2022 23:19

I'm not sure that it's possible to stop PBPs making a new account but it might help if the Night Watch could be given the power to ban egregious offenders, it might slow down the rate of their threads.

ofwarren · 23/10/2022 23:19

ErrolTheDragon · 23/10/2022 23:16

Not many people have a static IP address now.

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That makes it tricky then
M Maybe they need to have your first posts verified or something similar.
It's so annoying seeing that trolls crap most nights, over and over again.

whydoesitalwayshappentome · 23/10/2022 23:18

I had a deletion email from MNHQ but I can still see the thread.

SundayFunde · 23/10/2022 23:18

ofwarren · 23/10/2022 23:07

I don't understand how their IP isn't permanently banned. I've asked this before but never get an answer.
How are they able to create a new account?

IPs change.

Hawkins001 · 23/10/2022 23:17

Boris, boris, boris

NippyWoowoo · 23/10/2022 23:16

ofwarren · 23/10/2022 23:07

I don't understand how their IP isn't permanently banned. I've asked this before but never get an answer.
How are they able to create a new account?

Must be with a VPN. surprise no one had ever thought of it before