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Users quoting one another

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SabrePrattler · 29/05/2022 02:42

I'm finding it difficult to follow threads where people quote one another constantly. So, two posters start bickering and quoting one another and then messages contain 5/10/20 embedded messages. Makes threads unreadable.

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tribpot · 20/06/2022 09:52

I also hate the nested quotes-in-quotes-in-quotes. I agree that the facility to quote just the most recent post in the chain would be useful.

As to whether the quote-in-quote functionality is accessible, I tried it out just with the 'Read Aloud' function in Edge and it didn't seem particularly accessible, it just reads out a list of usernames and then reads the quotes from innermost to outer most. An actual screen reader may treat it differently? There's nothing very helpful in the HTML tags.

There are newer posters who don't seem to be aware that they're not replying to a single message but actually just posting at the bottom of the thread and so whose messages are indecipherable as they're referring to one post somewhere further up the thread with no indication as to which. I think this may be because on other forums (like Ravelry for example) you can 'reply to thread' (just post a message) or 'reply to post'. This creates a link in your post to the one you're replying to, with the option for an inline view of that post by clicking. I can progressively open up the chain of posts if I want to (i.e. post 75 that I've expanded here quotes post 73).

.. and in the spirit of accessibility since I can't add ALT text to the image, I will leave a description of it: screenshot from Ravelry where one post is a reply to another, showing the 'quoted' post embedded in the new post but collapsed until the user chooses to expand it.

Users quoting one another
Suddha · 20/06/2022 09:24

It would be helpful if you could edit quotes to say only the bit that you want to respond to. You used to be able to do this but now you can’t.

tigger1001 · 20/06/2022 09:22

Is this just available in the desktop version? As I use the app and I can't quote a post that has a quote in it?

JenniferBarkley · 20/06/2022 09:17

I'm delighted we finally have nested quoting. Much easier when posting, and if it's a sidebar argument I don't want to read I just scroll on by. It's long been the norm on other forums so it's really just MN getting with the two decades ago times.

kittensinthekitchen · 20/06/2022 08:50

ILoveAllRainbowsx · 19/06/2022 11:15

There should be an option to just quote the last message.

Yes. I've seen other forums where only the most recent comment is quoted.

Can you do that @MNHQ

MrsDrDear · 19/06/2022 23:51

I agree. On one thread there was a post with 14 quotes, bloody ridiculous.

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merryhouse · 19/06/2022 23:23

A forum I used to spend time on had a quote function which was editable.

It meant you could quote the relevant part of someone else's post (ie with all the usual markers, formatting etc) without clogging the thread with irrelevant repetition.

A simple Copy Quote function is worse than useless.

PurpleButterflyWings · 19/06/2022 22:40

@SabrePrattler Agree 100%. When I see this quote within a quote within a quote etc etc and so on and so on, I can't be fucked to read any of the posts on the 15 post post!!! Including the last one the last poster has put..

I don't know (or care) who has said what, because so many posts and usernames have been quoted. As you say it makes the post (and the thread sometimes) unbearable to read. I just skip past the nested responses, and have bailed on a few threads that have too many.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 19/06/2022 13:32

IstayedForTheFeminism · 29/05/2022 02:53

BobLep0nge

I agree, posters should quote the old way

Like this? I agree. I'd also like to see a return of putting a child's age in brackets if it's relevant. Not just after the abbreviations.

DC4 - my fourth child.
DC(4) - A 4 year old child.

I agree. Usually you can take a reasonable guess, but there are times when it would be helpful to have this much clearer.

DD4 point blank refuses to go to the shop for me, for example ...

SandyWedges · 19/06/2022 11:26

BobLep0nge · 29/05/2022 02:51

I agree, posters should quote the old way.

The old way isn't as accessible to all though

ILoveAllRainbowsx · 19/06/2022 11:20

Also, it should be easier to tag someone. If you are quoting them, then the @ and bold should automatically happen.

Even if you aren't quoting them, there should be an option under their post to tag them automatically.

ILoveAllRainbowsx · 19/06/2022 11:15

There should be an option to just quote the last message.

RevoltingHumanHead · 19/06/2022 02:20

people quoting quotes of people who've quoted quotes are just a visual irritant. I mentally skip over them.

FlowerArranger · 29/05/2022 04:26

I agree...😨

FlowerArranger · 29/05/2022 04:26

If so.....

FlowerArranger · 29/05/2022 04:25

FlowerArranger · 29/05/2022 04:25

And son on...

And so forth?

FlowerArranger · 29/05/2022 04:25

And son on...

FlowerArranger · 29/05/2022 04:25

FlowerArranger · 29/05/2022 04:24

...like this?

And like this?

FlowerArranger · 29/05/2022 04:24

FlowerArranger · 29/05/2022 04:24

Do you mean...

...like this?

FlowerArranger · 29/05/2022 04:24

SabrePrattler · 29/05/2022 03:24

That’s a pity for you. I actively like it. Much more user friendly.

Good for you.

The quoting function is fine in itself. But as per my initial message I find it dull when a spat ensues, quoting ensues, and then with each new message between them the entire conversation is repeated. Until the page is just a wall of repeated posts.

Do you mean...

SabrePrattler · 29/05/2022 03:24

That’s a pity for you. I actively like it. Much more user friendly.

Good for you.

The quoting function is fine in itself. But as per my initial message I find it dull when a spat ensues, quoting ensues, and then with each new message between them the entire conversation is repeated. Until the page is just a wall of repeated posts.

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GADDay · 29/05/2022 03:22

BoDerek · 29/05/2022 03:08

That’s a pity for you. I actively like it. Much more user friendly.

Me too

BoDerek · 29/05/2022 03:21

InattentiveADHD · 29/05/2022 03:19

I like it. Makes threads sooooo much easier to follow. You straight away know exactly what post they are responding to. And it's so much easier to quote yourself rather than the very awkward copy pasting and making bold.

Exactly this. And you can just skip past the ones engaged in offside arguments.

InattentiveADHD · 29/05/2022 03:19

I like it. Makes threads sooooo much easier to follow. You straight away know exactly what post they are responding to. And it's so much easier to quote yourself rather than the very awkward copy pasting and making bold.

BoDerek · 29/05/2022 03:08

SabrePrattler · 29/05/2022 02:58

Disagree. It happens. A discussion starts, people join in, smaller conversations open up within that and so it is. Nothing unusual or complicated about it. The having to copy, paste, bold etc was a terrific bore.

I'm aware it happens, that's why I started this thread.

The endless regurgitation of the same text in embedded quotes is just tedious to me.

That’s a pity for you. I actively like it. Much more user friendly.

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