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war topic

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Samcro · 14/02/2022 11:15

any chance of a covid style war topic for all the "are we going to war " threads please.

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C8H10N4O2 · 27/02/2022 22:05

If a particular topic attracts a lot of questionable posts at least the threads can be quarantined in a topic before definitive zapping

So what you want is not a topic for relevant discussion but somewhere to hide stuff but in such a way that any useful or relevant discussion on the subject will be buried under a pile of wannabe trolls?

How exactly does that aid rational or serious discussion on the subject? Or don't you want that?

Samcro · 27/02/2022 20:52

I hope that there is trolling going on, the idea that all these mad threads are started by real people is scarey

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A580Hojas · 27/02/2022 20:32

@Theworldisfullofgs

25A580Hojas Except it doesn't work like that. Everything ends up in AIBU.
Yeah. That's literally what I'm saying Confused.
CecilyTheWake · 27/02/2022 20:30

@merrymouse

The problem is it’s not always easy to tell whether a poster is trolling or just genuinely a bit thoughtless.

If a particular topic attracts a lot of questionable posts at least the threads can be quarantined in a topic before definitive zapping.

This is basically the problem. The majority of the war posts aren’t actually trolling, they’re just people who can’t be bothered to find an existing thread, are determined to have ‘their’ thread, want attention and/or are just plain ignorant and thick. Some of the posts about it are an absolute embarrassment.

But as they’re not trolls, they don’t get deleted.

Personally, it’s not a case of ‘I don’t want to see that’, it’s that I don’t want to read a load of hysterical fear-mongering nonsense from people who can’t even pinpoint Ukraine on a map.

There’s currently a poster who has been spamming AIBU with threads about petitions for animals leaving Ukraine and it’s that level of idiocy which I don’t want to see.

merrymouse · 27/02/2022 20:11

The problem is it’s not always easy to tell whether a poster is trolling or just genuinely a bit thoughtless.

If a particular topic attracts a lot of questionable posts at least the threads can be quarantined in a topic before definitive zapping.

C8H10N4O2 · 27/02/2022 20:06

It is when the threads are borderline trolling

Trolling is against the talk guidelines and so troll threads should be removed. Not cultivated under their own purpose built bridge.

merrymouse · 27/02/2022 19:57

However "I don't want to see that" is rarely a good or sustainable reason in itself to separate off traffic.

It is when the threads are borderline trolling.

Theworldisfullofgs · 27/02/2022 19:56

25A580Hojas
Except it doesn't work like that. Everything ends up in AIBU.

C8H10N4O2 · 27/02/2022 19:39

@CecilyTheWake

If the point of a separate board is to stop people posting in chat or aibu etc I don't that that works. It just causes the mods more work.

If MNHQ made it a policy to move threads to the relevant topics then people would soon get used to posting in the correct topic and other posters would start reporting threads in the wrong topics. Obviously, there are always exceptions, but the sheer number of unused topics on MN because everyone just uses chat or AIBU is ridiculous. It would also mean that those topics would appear more in Active and promote more activity on them generally.

There’s a topic for news and current affairs, I don’t know why all the Ukraine threads can’t be moved into there.

The logical answer would be to get rid of AIBU and its domination of the site and focus more on topics. Then prune out those which remain tumbleweed.

Topic wise, current affairs related new subjects would then go into the News topic and be split off when they generate sufficient sustained traffic to make a new topic worthwhile.

This isn't a new problem on discussion forums but the existence of AIBU magnifies the mess on this one. However "I don't want to see that" is rarely a good or sustainable reason in itself to separate off traffic.

A580Hojas · 27/02/2022 19:25

This thread is so interesting. It is proof that a vast number of Mumsnetters perceive this site to be just Chat and Aibu. All the outraged cries of "this shouldn't be hidden away" confirm it.

Brexit should have gone in a seperate topic, Covid should have gone in a separate topic, the Russian aggression on Ukraine should be in a seperate topic. It is not censorship, it is just common fucking sense.

merrymouse · 27/02/2022 19:10

The oldest thread post on page three of AIBU was at 10.49 this morning.

It’s a great board to make a snap judgement on whether someone was being reasonable, but not a good place to find specific information.

Any post can get bumped down by a sudden flood of unreaso9nable MILs and parking disputes.

merrymouse · 27/02/2022 19:04

Brexit shouldn't have been moved to a corner either.

It’s not moving it to a corner, it’s making it easier to find posts on a topic that are more than a day old, and easier to filter topics.

It won’t stop people seeing all active threads if that is how they choose to see the site.

CecilyTheWake · 27/02/2022 18:39

If the point of a separate board is to stop people posting in chat or aibu etc I don't that that works. It just causes the mods more work.

If MNHQ made it a policy to move threads to the relevant topics then people would soon get used to posting in the correct topic and other posters would start reporting threads in the wrong topics. Obviously, there are always exceptions, but the sheer number of unused topics on MN because everyone just uses chat or AIBU is ridiculous. It would also mean that those topics would appear more in Active and promote more activity on them generally.

There’s a topic for news and current affairs, I don’t know why all the Ukraine threads can’t be moved into there.

Sparklingbrook · 27/02/2022 18:39

Adults who should be perfectly capable of dealing with subjects in their respective topics.

Theworldisfullofgs · 27/02/2022 18:19

@ZeroFuchsGiven

Ridiculous suggestion, This topic should not be hidden away.
Brexit shouldn't have been moved to a corner either. And totally agree, this is a site for adults.
tigger1001 · 27/02/2022 18:13

@TeenPlusCat

I posted up thread that I am in favour of a separate board and why.

I would like to address the 'but some people only ever look in AIBU/Chat or only ever access via Active' argument for not having a board.

Are people honestly saying, that because some people choose not to use all the boards/features that MN has then those features shouldn't be used to the detriment of people who do use them?

It strikes me as similar to people who have phones with flexible Do Not Disturb features who complain about being texted at midnight.

If you choose not to use provided features you can't complain when others do! I choose not to use facebook. I accept I miss out on some stuff because of it. That's life.

It's the opposite in fact.

Having a separate board won't stop people posting in other boards. It certainly didn't re covid and brexit. But what did happen is these threads were derailed by posters going on the thread to say they shouldn't have posted as it's not in the right area. Then that's what the thread became about.

Irrespective of whether there is a board for the topic, and it could be argued that current affairs should all be in the news section anyway, is that people will start a thread in whatever board they think is relevant to them,

If the point of a separate board is to stop people posting in chat or aibu etc I don't that that works. It just causes the mods more work.

And the mods are human and don't always get it right. One thread was moved from scotsnet to the feminist board when it was more relevant to Scotsnet and it had to be moved back.

Where would you currently put a post about rising gas prices? As that will invariably discuss Russia - Ukraine. But shouldn't be in a separate Ukraine topic as it's relevant to uk Mumsnetters who are worried about rising prices.

It's such a topical discussion right now. I think we need to accept people will be posting about it and they won't stick to the one board.

Sparklingbrook · 27/02/2022 17:11

@ClaudineClare

The "war prep" one has been zapped now.
Yes it’s weird because it got moved to Preppers topic first. Then the OP asked for it to be deleted. Confused
ClaudineClare · 27/02/2022 17:08

The "war prep" one has been zapped now.

Samcro · 27/02/2022 17:07

Some of the threads are just so goady and TATs

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AdobeWanKenobi · 27/02/2022 17:01

@Sparklingbrook

There’s now a thread in AIBU just titled ‘War Prep’ Hmm
It's madness. I'm sure these people are getting off on how many others they can terrify. People with anxiety issues must be struggling, especially if they use this site for support.
Samcro · 27/02/2022 16:39

@ClaudineClare

Some posters are now scaring each other shitless about the possibility of nuclear war. MNHQ needs to step in and calm the wilder talk, it is not fair to scare people so much.
So true Just opened a thread and the level of crazy is beyond belief. Add in the fact that every one thinks their question is so important they can't post on an existing thread
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Sparklingbrook · 27/02/2022 15:35

There’s now a thread in AIBU just titled ‘War Prep’ Hmm

TeenPlusCat · 27/02/2022 15:29

I posted up thread that I am in favour of a separate board and why.

I would like to address the 'but some people only ever look in AIBU/Chat or only ever access via Active' argument for not having a board.

Are people honestly saying, that because some people choose not to use all the boards/features that MN has then those features shouldn't be used to the detriment of people who do use them?

It strikes me as similar to people who have phones with flexible Do Not Disturb features who complain about being texted at midnight.

If you choose not to use provided features you can't complain when others do! I choose not to use facebook. I accept I miss out on some stuff because of it. That's life.

ClaudineClare · 27/02/2022 15:14

Some posters are now scaring each other shitless about the possibility of nuclear war. MNHQ needs to step in and calm the wilder talk, it is not fair to scare people so much.

merrymouse · 27/02/2022 14:44

And there is no need to post in a thread to get it moved. It just needs to be reported.