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Some users seemingly having "protected" status

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MatildaIThink · 06/12/2021 12:34

Hey @MNHQ

Why do some users seemingly have "protected" status on here?

There are some who regularly troll, post comments which are deliberately unhelpful at best, often rude, sarcastic etc. yet their posts almost never get moderated. However when anyone replies to them in a similar tone, or disagreeing with them, those replies get "moderated" almost instantly, with replies moderated out of existence merely by the nature of disagreeing with them?

Why are certain posters allowed to get away with almost anything, what is the reason that they gain this special status?

Thanks

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NeedsCharging · 06/12/2021 13:04

When I first joined many years ago there was definitely a group if posters who were seen as leaders of the pack who were never deleted and could have posters banned with 1 report to MNHQ.
They appear to have long since gone or name changed which is why I rejoined.
I havent seen MNHQ protecting certain posters like that in the last year or so.

I think if enough posters find it offensive as you say and report then surely MN should look at the posts again?

Slowchimes · 06/12/2021 13:04

I must admit I always thought that Mumsnet moderation was fairly and rather charmingly done until I experienced exactly what you are describing on a thread earlier this year op, under a different nn. Someone had made what I thought was a really racist remark but when I pointed it out, and the poster was rude to me, it was my post that was deleted. And I have been on here since 2002 and never had any problems before, always try to be polite etc. I can only imagine that the other poster had "special" status. I have since looked at other threads and seen this happen. And I say this as someone who doesn't like criticising Mumset as it has helped me a lot over the years.

Negligee · 06/12/2021 13:01

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oneglassandpuzzled · 06/12/2021 13:01

I think it's actually better than it was ten years ago. One or two got away with a lot then.

MatildaIThink · 06/12/2021 13:01

@CovidPassQuestion

But is this the millennial definition of 'troll' or the real one?
The definition meaning "deliberately being an arsehole".
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ShirleyPhallus · 06/12/2021 13:00

I’m sometimes a troll. Ie, someone posted to ask how many meatballs were reasonable per portion and I gave a MN classic answer of tiny portions. It was a joke. Some people thought I was serious and some thought I was joking.

Likewise, I sometimes give vaguely troll like answers on what are quite clearly troll threads. Like the one where someone said they’d made a million pounds from selling MLM or something and I said it wasn’t that much.

Is that the kind of thing you’re talking about?

MatildaIThink · 06/12/2021 12:59

@ChequerBoard

Honestly, MN thrives on its viper reputation. It's the differentiating factor between MN and all those other 'mummy' sites with their incessant 'hun' and 'bubba' nonsense.

I'm here for the sarcasm and the straight talking. If there is something offensive then report it.

Please don't petition to water down the conversation here to another mush-fest. There are plenty of other options for that.

I don't like the fake supportive rubbish either and I like honesty.

What I have an issue with is that there seems to be a level of incivility which gets most people moderated, I see posts that seemed fine, if a little close to the mark get moderated, yet some other posters are continually allowed to post things far more abrasive, yet get away with it.

I have no problem with the rules, if they are consistent, my issue is that they seem to not apply to some people.

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MatildaIThink · 06/12/2021 12:57

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MaryAndGerryLivingInDerry · 06/12/2021 12:55

@Negligee what are you doing?? Report your post and have it removed.

CovidPassQuestion · 06/12/2021 12:53

I agree@ErrolTheDragon, but I also think mnhq take those posters posts down, or at least IME. (Though I'm not here as much as I used to be tbf).

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ChequerBoard · 06/12/2021 12:53

Honestly, MN thrives on its viper reputation. It's the differentiating factor between MN and all those other 'mummy' sites with their incessant 'hun' and 'bubba' nonsense.

I'm here for the sarcasm and the straight talking. If there is something offensive then report it.

Please don't petition to water down the conversation here to another mush-fest. There are plenty of other options for that.

CovidPassQuestion · 06/12/2021 12:52

But is this the millennial definition of 'troll' or the real one?

ErrolTheDragon · 06/12/2021 12:49

@CovidPassQuestion

There is a poster I've noticed quite a few times in the past fortnight as being overly-argumentative... but it's not a name I've seen previously, nor are they making any personal attacks, so whilst it's annoying, there's no valid reason to take down their posts.
Some posters seem to break the 'deliberately inflammatory' or 'just seriously unpleasant' criteria. One incident alone may not be deemed problematic but a series of reports for the same poster may flag them up as a serial troublemaker.
christmaskittenincoming · 06/12/2021 12:49

Can you give examples?

I like the straight talking on here, and cannot get stressed about other posters voicing their own opinions whether I agree or not.

CovidPassQuestion · 06/12/2021 12:48

I might agree if it was not the case that anyone else posting similar comments gets moderated in minutes, and replies of a similar tone get moderated in minutes, yet some users seem to be allowed to troll with impunity.
I think maybe we need a link to a thread like this, as I've obviously missed them all!

MatildaIThink · 06/12/2021 12:47

@SmellyOldOwls

Seriously? #bekind or be deleted, are those our options?
I hope the options are wider than that, but I do also hope that "Be a troll" is not an option, although some people seem to be permitted to do so.
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SmellyOldOwls · 06/12/2021 12:46

Seriously? #bekind or be deleted, are those our options?

CovidPassQuestion · 06/12/2021 12:44

And tbf I have never in over 15 years on MN seen anyone be sarky on a bereavement thread.

MatildaIThink · 06/12/2021 12:44

@CovidPassQuestion

Perhaps MNHQ think your complaint is invalid. There's a gulf between 'rude' and 'offensive' in most cases. Just because you don't like what someone is saying doesn't mean you can silence them.
I might agree if it was not the case that anyone else posting similar comments gets moderated in minutes, and replies of a similar tone get moderated in minutes, yet some users seem to be allowed to troll with impunity.
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CovidPassQuestion · 06/12/2021 12:43

Not irony @ThatsNotMyPinkUnicorn - humour.

CovidPassQuestion · 06/12/2021 12:42

There is a poster I've noticed quite a few times in the past fortnight as being overly-argumentative... but it's not a name I've seen previously, nor are they making any personal attacks, so whilst it's annoying, there's no valid reason to take down their posts.

ThatsNotMyPinkUnicorn · 06/12/2021 12:41

@CovidPassQuestion

And it's hardly a crime to be sarcastic Hmm
The irony.

But no of course it’s not but it could be inappropriate given the context. If someone has posted about a bereavement or PND or distress at their relationship ending, a sarky comment obviously would be probably against TGs.

MaryAndGerryLivingInDerry · 06/12/2021 12:41

Name names or it didn’t happen! Grin

CovidPassQuestion · 06/12/2021 12:41

Perhaps MNHQ think your complaint is invalid. There's a gulf between 'rude' and 'offensive' in most cases. Just because you don't like what someone is saying doesn't mean you can silence them.

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