An algorithm to remove 'Karen'?

Typical mumsnet thinking karen is the worst thing you can call someone, not the racist insults that Karen's use.

This.

And also... really? If we're doing Karen surely we also need to automatically censor Snowflake, any references to millennials, woke, cis, terf, cocklodger, feckless, manchild, trump and his orangeness, boris and his hair, biden and his dementia, nicola and her jimmy kranky, Chad (which would mean losing CHAD HOGAN WOOO SPRING BREAK), Dan, Ken, Becky, Stacey, Bye Felicia, Sure Jan, the office Sandra, and we should probably sweep up the covidiots and their arch-enemies the dementors, and anything related to tinfoil.

Any form of fat shaming and slim shaming.

Hairy hands? And that "a man has arrived" meme. Or someone typing the words. Even though I love the principle of it... fair is fair surely? Either stereotypes and mild insults are fine or they're not?

Either we have a moderation policy where a human decides if something is crossing the line, or we start blanket banning words? Is that really what people want .

Or is it just Karen, specifically? Because....? Why exactly? What makes Karen so special? (Pun fully intended).

I don't really get the argument to be honest.

Everyone knows what it's referring to and everyone knows that your name being Karen Chad Becky Jan Stacey Felicia Dan Sebastian Tarquin MacKenzeee etc does not mean you are the living embodiment of the stereotype. And stereotypes are rife on this site - how often do people say stuff about "Chelsea Tractors" or "athleisure wear" or MILs or NIMBYS or the in crowd on the school run or the performance parents etc. Or are those okay because they definitely don't apply to you whereas maybe the Karen stereotype might?

It's also kinda ironic / amusing that on a thread demanding to censor the word Karen, there are replies like "something needs to be done".

If it's the fact that a person's name is being used that is the issue, we could just replace Karens with 'something needs to be doners'.

I'd rather a stronger line be taken on racism, particularly the more subtle type that is seemingly acceptable. The current Piers Morgan thread is a prime example.

"Karen's" don't use racial slurs, as a pp stated. Racists use racial slurs, male and female, they are not linked to the perpetrator by a particular name.

I agree. We need to stop this bullying of women.

I think there's lots of words ahead of Karen if any are to be removed

If this is the biggest concern in your life then you are very lucky

Typical mumsnet thinking karen is the worst thing you can call someone, not the racist insults that Karen's use.

I doubt you could remove someone's name. Does it mean people can never mention the name Karen (not as an insult)?

If MN is removing something, also remove "woke". Tired of seeing people use it thinking they sound clever.

I don't think that's the way to go to be honest. Right now people use this term in person and online. Using it here they are rightly always pulled up on it. I think better to educate than eliminate.

I think I agree with this; although I do see the counter argument for why should we have to educate people.

But I think if this is done for “Karen”, it needs to be done for other words considered widely offensive, like the racial slurs that others have mentioned, CIS, terf…

My name is Karen and it started out being a bit of fun on a couple of cat memes, then turned into something much more nasty and became ok for everyone to use it as a form of abuse.

People just think it funny, but how would they like it if it was their name always being used to make out you are a certain type of person?

and you can't comment or complain because they then point out that you are being a ........

It is time that the name was reclaimed for something good!

Not to mention you would be unable to talk about anyone named Karen.

On the most recent of the million Karen threads on here, someone directly compared Karen to the N and P words, which the typed out uncensored. Mumsnet did not automatically filter them out.

I agree that something needs to be done. I've never been comfortable with the apparent trend of using a perfectly good person's name as an insult.

How the hell do people who do this think it makes those who have that name feel? Or are they really just too thick to think that one through? Either that or they simply don't care.

I know a couple of women called Karen. Hearing the current abuse of their names must be cringeworthy and embarrassing.

*terf not term!

I find it more offensive than term.

All changing our usernames is a good idea! We could have a Karen day.

All I get when I report it is “We’ll take a look”. MNHQ obviously don’t see it as a problem, which is very disappointing.

I've seen worse words used on here than Karen (and cis for that matter). Fully typed out raviak slurs. They do usually get deleted, eventually, but not automatically.

Maybe we should all change our username to Karen and reclaim the Karen. We could greet each other by saying "Hey Karen, let me see the manager!" But if anyone else says Karen we get offended that they would say the K word and demand to see their manager.

I don't think that's the way to go to be honest. Right now people use this term in person and online. Using it here they are rightly always pulled up on it. I think better to educate than eliminate.

It’s guaranteed to derail a thread, as well, as it always descends into a bit of a fight about the origins of the word, who is OK to use it, and whether it’s offensive or not. Which is generally not what the OP is ostensibly asking about.

Definitely do it with cis too please

I agree.

(and also 'tat')