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RTFT

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DavidTheDog · 15/06/2021 13:34

Sometimes people not RTFT is irritating, but sometimes it's downright cruel or offensive. So, I suggest the following treatment.

  • first time offence, banned for 1 day.
  • second offence, banned for 2 days.
  • third offence, banned for... I've changed my mind actually, three strikes and you're out.
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NigellaSeed · 23/06/2021 09:45

I am guilty of this on some threads - I wish the app had the op filter - but it's normally on opinion threads rather than narrative ones.

but I've seen a few really insensitive ones. OP asking about her questionable sex life with OH, then it transpires he raped her and she left him,. Everyone's telling her to go to the police. then a couple of people started posting sex tips and links to sex books. :l

I think reporting very crass posts as HQ said will hopefully mean the op doesn't see it

RockingMyFiftiesNot · 23/06/2021 09:13

[quote DavidTheDog]@RockingMyFiftiesNot you have lost me.

Even if your chosen format for MN makes it slow for you, it is just a case of good manners, respect and kindness not to wade in posting without RTFT. There are so many examples where this happened and the result is at best crass, at worse cruel.[/quote]
I think you've lost yourself. Read your own posts, you said one thing, then another, and say you're lost when called out on it

DavidTheDog · 23/06/2021 09:09

@RockingMyFiftiesNot you have lost me.

Even if your chosen format for MN makes it slow for you, it is just a case of good manners, respect and kindness not to wade in posting without RTFT. There are so many examples where this happened and the result is at best crass, at worse cruel.

OP posts:
3Britnee · 23/06/2021 08:32

@Constantcrayfish

I don’t understand why people use the app. It seems to lack many functions. The mobile web version is absolutely fine though.
Its slower and clunkier.
Constantcrayfish · 23/06/2021 08:20

I don’t understand why people use the app. It seems to lack many functions. The mobile web version is absolutely fine though.

3Britnee · 23/06/2021 08:02

[quote iklboo]@Aria999 - you can, yes. I use it all the time on long threads. [/quote]
Not on every app. I'm on android and I can't filter by op.

HumunaHey · 23/06/2021 07:11

[quote RockingMyFiftiesNot]@DavidTheDog so you're asking MN to ban people who don't have time to trawl through pages and pages of often repetitive posts? To turn MN into a place where you're only welcome to comment if you have hours and hours of spare time?
Shame, as you'll lose a lot of valuable input from professional people. You'll alienate people who could really benefit from interaction with others but don't have the time because they are single parents. Or nursing sick relatives. Or can't concentrate for long enough to read so much. Or just have other things to do.
You've not really thought this through have you?

Now if you were talking about people who haven't even read the OP, I might be more inclined to agree. [/quote]
You'll lose a lot of valuable input from professional people

Except 9/10 times the input isn't valuable. They just repeat what plenty of people have said already or say something no longer relevant following an OP update. . .because they couldn't be bothered to read.

RockingMyFiftiesNot · 23/06/2021 06:15

@DavidTheDog

reading every single thread which is what the OP is asking for

Where have I asked that? As previously explained, read the OP’s posts and the last page or so to tune in to the conversation before wading in.

I have read, and reread all YOUR comments and you never said this?
Constantcrayfish · 23/06/2021 04:46

The problem is, MNHQ @LilyMumsnet no longer allow you to have 1000 posts per page.

I can still do this? Little drop down menu at the top of the thread. That’s on the mobile site at least. Ditto see all the OP’s posts.

I think posting before reading enough to have a sense of where the thread has gone when the original post is clearly on a sensitive issue is totally off. The risk of putting a giant foot in it is going to be huge.

Providora · 23/06/2021 04:46

We do find that once aware, people are quite sorry for not RTFT and post to say as much - which we think is quite nice, when appropriate.

Plenty don't apologise. They dig in and tell us they're way too busy to read our drivel before adding their own. Completely unapologetic about the time they've just wasted for 1000s and 1000s of other busy people.

It's already been said on this thread.

DavidTheDog · 23/06/2021 04:24

reading every single thread which is what the OP is asking for

Where have I asked that? As previously explained, read the OP’s posts and the last page or so to tune in to the conversation before wading in.

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TyneTeas · 22/06/2021 23:39

You can quite often get the gist of what some of the replies have been by just reading the OP's posts though, so for example if they gave explained that the cheque has already been cashed, you might not feel the need to advise to cancel it.

I sometimes View All posts, then use Find in page to search for a key word or two on the rare occasion I think I might have something original to post several pages in.

RockingMyFiftiesNot · 22/06/2021 22:56

*every single post in a thread that should have said

RockingMyFiftiesNot · 22/06/2021 22:56

@Haffdonga yes those examples are awful. But there's a big difference between reading all the OPs posts (which for the reasons you mention is important) and reading every single thread which is what the OP is asking for .

Haffdonga · 22/06/2021 22:54

I so agree. I've seen some terrible examples recently.

e.g. Poster not sure what to do about an unplanned pregnancy. She decides to keep the baby but later had a miscarriage. Posters who haven't RTFT repeatedly telling her to keep the baby many days after she loses it Sad
e.g. Poster complained about nasty husband. Everyone tells her to LTB. She did LTB. People still tell her to LTB. She gets divorced posting regular updates on her shitty ex's behaviour along the way. People who haven't RTFT still tell her to LTB. She meets a lovely new man and is happy. People still tell het to LTB. Angry

Not RTFT is SO rude, lazy and selfish. If you can't be bothered to at least read the OP's posts then why on earth post bullshit yourself? Confused

RockingMyFiftiesNot · 22/06/2021 22:53

@SpindleWhorl

I bet MNHQ don't come on and give you a response, OP. You'll be waiting a long time.
Very funny
RockingMyFiftiesNot · 22/06/2021 22:53

@DavidTheDog so you're asking MN to ban people who don't have time to trawl through pages and pages of often repetitive posts? To turn MN into a place where you're only welcome to comment if you have hours and hours of spare time?
Shame, as you'll lose a lot of valuable input from professional people. You'll alienate people who could really benefit from interaction with others but don't have the time because they are single parents. Or nursing sick relatives. Or can't concentrate for long enough to read so much. Or just have other things to do.
You've not really thought this through have you?

Now if you were talking about people who haven't even read the OP, I might be more inclined to agree.

SpindleWhorl · 22/06/2021 22:41

I bet MNHQ don't come on and give you a response, OP. You'll be waiting a long time.

MustardRose · 22/06/2021 22:36

It isn't always easy to RTFT anyway, especially on fast-moving threads. You can read the entire thing, decide to post something and while you are writing it or looking back through the thread to check something or quote someone, loads of other people reply or the OP comes back and your post crosses with all of those. It is easy to look like a twit in that situation.

iklboo · 22/06/2021 22:32

@Aria999 - you can, yes. I use it all the time on long threads.

QuillBill · 22/06/2021 22:24

There’s no way I can be bothered to wait for up to 10 pages to load while reading, so sometimes it’s easy to post after a couple.
This has blown my mind! Grin

I honestly had always thought it was because people were thick as two short planks when they just posted the exact same thing as everyone else hours later.

GreatBigBird · 22/06/2021 22:19

@GreatBigBird

Doesn’t 'getting the gist of a thread' go totally against RTFT??
Sorry, that should say 'getting a good idea of the convo' goes, totally against RTFT
GreatBigBird · 22/06/2021 22:18

Doesn’t 'getting the gist of a thread' go totally against RTFT??

DavidTheDog · 22/06/2021 22:09

Also, if a thread is multiple pages deep and someone can't be bother to rtft/all of OPs posts, why do they bother to get involved? It's a bit pointless imo.

Hubris? Arrogance? Narcissism?

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Aria999 · 22/06/2021 21:48

@GCAcademic

You don’t have to load 10 pages, though. You can just select the OP’s posts, read those, and make sure you’re not putting your foot in it before posting.
You can't do that in the app though right?