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Why is it suddenly ok to make multiple threads on the same subject over and over again?

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DayBath · 04/03/2021 16:36

I'm talking about the Feminism board. Please could MN explain why it's ok for the same poster to keep starting new threads on the same topic repeatedly without the previous ones filling up or reaching any limit?

Surely there's a point where this is considered "not in the spirit" as you love to say. By all means this person should be allowed to post but why are repeated threads within hours of each other being allowed to cause Groundhog Day over there?

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NoWordForFluffy · 05/03/2021 07:10

@dragoncheeselady

The poster is also repeatedly using cis after being told it's not acceptable under the Mumsnet rules for FWR. But they apparently are immune to that rule of have the rules changed again?
This is a huge problem for me. The OP was repeatedly told why cis is offensive in one thread. She then went and created a whole new thread on that topic alone.

It's not on, and her attitude to and use of the word is a clear breach of talk guidelines. When other people were being deleted left right and centre on those threads, why are her breaches left to stand and why isn't she getting strikes? It's hypocrisy on behalf of MNHQ and I want to know the reasoning.

AaronPurr · 05/03/2021 06:41

I agree, no brand new members should be allowed to post on FWR. Like most others, I lurked for ages before ever posting on any FWR threads.

I think that's a good solution. I've been here years and think i've posted on FWR a handful of times. Even now i'm more likely to lurk rather than post.

Being able to create an account and then post multiple threads on the same topic is usually seen as bad forum etiquette, and that's without taking into account the content.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 05/03/2021 01:16

Can you goad a goader? Rhetorical question.

Mockolate · 05/03/2021 01:12

Sounds like some sort of organised response to the goading is needed. I remember the recipe replies or maybe some quotes from literature.

Organised recipes in regards to goading?
Yeah, because that doesn't sound like goading in itself Confused Hmm

YetAnotherSpartacus · 05/03/2021 00:00

Yes, I meant threads above, not posts. But having said that, the tactic of disrupting good threads in which FWR posters have invested time, energy and emotion with goady and disruptive posts is also prevalent. Often these threads are deleted as a result because they 'look like Swiss cheese' or have veered so far off track that they cannot be salvaged. The net result is that the goaders win and women and other 'in good faith' posters are silenced. Yet, these multiple, goady, threads have been allowed to stand.

Akire · 04/03/2021 23:57

I don’t know why we can’t just ignore the lot of them if it’s obviously phishing thread. No one respond at all they will get bored sooner or later.

PickAChew · 04/03/2021 23:57

Sounds like some sort of organised response to the goading is needed. I remember the recipe replies or maybe some quotes from literature. Not necessarilygood literature!

ErrolTheDragon · 04/03/2021 23:31

@Mockolate

Multiple posts on the same topic? Not really any different to the multiple posts we get "what is a woman?" - circular threads that are like Groundhog Day, discussing the same thing, going over the same argument day in, day out, so not sure this is much different.
Multiple threads, not posts.
YetAnotherSpartacus · 04/03/2021 23:24

Adding my voice too. The standards of moderation are beginning to seem a bit 'double' - and against FWR women. Many FWR women have been deleted, given strikes and banned for quite innocuous posts, or where we have been goaded. We contort ourselves linguistically to conform to 'the rules' which often seem to be ambiguously or arbitrarily applied - and then posters who boast that they are posting in bad faith are allowed to post multiple, disruptive posts and use language that is offensive to many women. What gives?

MuddyWalks · 04/03/2021 23:23

Agreed.

JulesJules · 04/03/2021 23:15

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Mockolate · 04/03/2021 23:06

Multiple posts on the same topic?
Not really any different to the multiple posts we get "what is a woman?"

  • circular threads that are like Groundhog Day, discussing the same thing, going over the same argument day in, day out, so not sure this is much different.
VaggieMight · 04/03/2021 23:06

It's beyond tedious. The new posters on FWR will soon get bored and go away as they always do. I'm disappointed to see MNHQ seemingly fawn over some of them and allow such disingenuous threads to stand.

I agree, no brand new members should be allowed to post on FWR. Like most others, I lurked for ages before ever posting on any FWR threads.

Doyoumind · 04/03/2021 22:47

The OP from those threads had multiple violations that were allowed to stand.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. MN doesn't let anyone post under Sex until they've been here long enough. I don't think you should be able to join and immediately post in FWR without being an established member - even if it's just a 24 hour restriction. It would help prevent this kind of nonsense.

BaronessWrongCrowd · 04/03/2021 22:42

Being one of those posters who was deleted for repeating what a mod had said and then subsequently been proven correct about the OP,'s motives, it feels like you threw regular posters under a bus. Allowing personal attacks to stand, yet deleting and giving people strikes for innocuous comments

It hasn't been an open debate, it has been outright abuse from visitors who have no intention of engaging in debate but chuck around offensive slurs, make racist and misogynistic comments and then take screen shots to post all over social media.

The handling of the situation has been appalling. There is no harm in holding your hands up and saying you got it wrong this time.

Sophoclesthefox · 04/03/2021 22:40

It really is disappointing that users have been deleted for pointing out the obvious. The double standard over the user doubling down on her use of “cis” was not great at all.

Having checked out the user in question on Twitter, I really do not think MN have done her any favours by allowing the threads to run on.

DayBath · 04/03/2021 22:33

@BoreOfWhabylon

I've reported the OP, not because there's anything wrong with it but to draw MNHQ's attention to this thread. *@MNHQ* doesn't go anywhere.
Fair enough Smile
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Ereshkigalangcleg · 04/03/2021 22:22

really hope there is a rethink of this strategy as pandering enemies in the mistaken belief that they will play fair if you do, is misguided and utterly counterproductive.

It really is. You can't reason with certain people. They are ideological zealots, there is no room for Mumsnet in their brave new world.

TinselAngel · 04/03/2021 22:15

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OvaHere · 04/03/2021 22:11

@Nefbachmorf

Adding my voice too. Especially in defence of those who had posts deleted on the second thread for 'troll hunting' when they were only repeating what MNHQ had said on the first thread! The first thread had been locked, therefore most of us hadn't returned to it, so had not seen MNHQ's edit saying the OP had been contacted and that HQ had a mind change and accepted OP's explanation.
Exactly. Today has been a complete mind fuck. Don't appreciate the feeling that a trap was laid for women on another site that's nothing to do with Mumsnet then the posters here being punished for walking right in to it.
ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 04/03/2021 22:03

@GCAcademic

Can you confirm, MN, whether you still operate the strike system when FWR posters respond to blatant trolling?
I suspect that was also an aim. If feminists are banned from Mumsnet there isn't really anywhere else to go.
Nefbachmorf · 04/03/2021 22:01

Adding my voice too.
Especially in defence of those who had posts deleted on the second thread for 'troll hunting' when they were only repeating what MNHQ had said on the first thread!
The first thread had been locked, therefore most of us hadn't returned to it, so had not seen MNHQ's edit saying the OP had been contacted and that HQ had a mind change and accepted OP's explanation.

Wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 04/03/2021 21:58

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dragoncheeselady · 04/03/2021 21:56

The poster is also repeatedly using cis after being told it's not acceptable under the Mumsnet rules for FWR. But they apparently are immune to that rule of have the rules changed again?