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happy97 · 30/01/2021 10:26

Why would someone troll about this? I find it staggering that a person would go to so much trouble to make it all up. For what gain 🤷‍♀️

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Covidcorvid · 30/01/2021 20:37

I googled it as it sounded like a big load of shit. It would have been a massive news story and there was nothing.

orlaquiver · 30/01/2021 19:06

I read that last night and the whole thing stank to high heaven.
I spent 18 years working in news and if a story with even half those dramatic details had occurred papers and news programmes would have been all over it.
The ingredients for a top story were all there.
Family wiped out and killed except for one lone survivor who witnesses the whole horror.
Mistaken identity.
Victims on holiday in another country
Gang related
Further tragedy after the fact with loss of unborn child.
It was like a perfect storm of ingredients. Believe me if anything like that had happened in the last decade you probably would remember because it would have been so heavily covered.
Why do people make that shit up?

People just do unfortunately. Look at the woman who said she was in the Twin Towers when they collapsed. I have come across more people that you could believe doing this kind of thing.
It's like the grief vampires on Facebook who claim to be "devastated" when someone they hardly know dies. I see it as some kind of reverse form of basking in reflected glory. For a few hours they are the star of their own soap opera and everyone wants to talk to them.

CharityDingle · 30/01/2021 18:54

@BigBadVoodooHat

*Highly unlikely that such an event would not have made international news headlines...

Indeed.

It was obviously attention-seeking bollocks from the very first post.

Rather than asking why someone would tell such lies on an online forum, instead ask why some people are so willing to believe anything they read, no matter how melodramatic or heart-rending, without stopping to question what they’re reading or why it was posted.

With her rubbish about how she wanted to retrain and invest herself in helping the similarly bereaved, it was obvious she was looking to get off on the cavalcade of posts telling her what a strong and wonderful person she is.

Exactly.

People need to step back and think before rushing in to fuel such obvious rubbish.

BornOnThe4thJuly · 30/01/2021 18:42

@Clymene

Even if you believed the frankly enormously unlikely story, did the bit about her training as a midwife, just a mere few years after her fiancé died in her arms and her baby was stillborn, not give you pause? Confused
I thought exactly the same, after initially thinking, how could I have missed a news story like this, I then thought bollocks would she want to become a midwife and be reminded of what she lost so tragically every day!

I think when I first started using mumsnet I was terrible at spotting trolls. It’s become more obvious to me in recent years. I think it’s pretty sick the kind of things a lot of them troll about.

Clymene · 30/01/2021 18:34

Even if you believed the frankly enormously unlikely story, did the bit about her training as a midwife, just a mere few years after her fiancé died in her arms and her baby was stillborn, not give you pause? Confused

BigBadVoodooHat · 30/01/2021 18:32

*Highly unlikely that such an event would not have made international news headlines...

Indeed.

It was obviously attention-seeking bollocks from the very first post.

Rather than asking why someone would tell such lies on an online forum, instead ask why some people are so willing to believe anything they read, no matter how melodramatic or heart-rending, without stopping to question what they’re reading or why it was posted.

With her rubbish about how she wanted to retrain and invest herself in helping the similarly bereaved, it was obvious she was looking to get off on the cavalcade of posts telling her what a strong and wonderful person she is.

Meowmeow20202 · 30/01/2021 18:29

@bruffin www.mumsnet.com/Talk/pregnancy/2915356-Old-user-NobblyBobbly19-one-born-every-minute. Mumsnet even admitted their mistake.

12frogsincoats · 30/01/2021 18:21

Never saw that particular thread so can't comment on that. However, just because a MN mod decides to delete a thread doesn't mean it is 100% definitely a troll. Moderators aren't gods who can instantly know without a doubt that someone is lying.

pawivy · 30/01/2021 17:54

Was reading it during the night feeds and was concerned.

Towards the end there was a poster said "are you clean now" which confused me even more. I couldn't see a reference to drugs but wondered if people knew something I didn't, or could have missed it. Maybe that's where others have said people were possibly acting to keep it going.

Didn't see it today so no idea what happened next but just don't get it. Sad really.

bruffin · 30/01/2021 17:37

@Meowmeow20202

Its sound like mm is pretty sure but when ever i see something like this i remember the poster whos waters broke very early and she lost her boy. Even mm thought troll and banned/deleted. It ended up being real. Please be thoughtful on what you post even if its seems an obvious pisstake Smile
We dont know the poster was genuine. They may have worked in the hospital and stolen the "story" and probably not for the first time
CharityDingle · 30/01/2021 16:49

@BobbidyBob

Most murders make at least the local news. Four British tourists including a pregnant woman who later lost her baby gunned down in a popular European resort in a case of mistaken identity in gang warfare? And not a murmur in any type of media? Yeah, right.

Exactly. I don’t know why this needs to be spelled out Confused

Exactly.

Highly unlikely that such an event would not have made international news headlines...

Meowmeow20202 · 30/01/2021 16:43

Its sound like mm is pretty sure but when ever i see something like this i remember the poster whos waters broke very early and she lost her boy. Even mm thought troll and banned/deleted. It ended up being real. Please be thoughtful on what you post even if its seems an obvious pisstake Smile

YouAintKingDingALing · 30/01/2021 16:37

There are some very, very sick individuals out there. I agree with a pp re the socks on that thread

BobbidyBob · 30/01/2021 15:42

Most murders make at least the local news. Four British tourists including a pregnant woman who later lost her baby gunned down in a popular European resort in a case of mistaken identity in gang warfare? And not a murmur in any type of media? Yeah, right.

Exactly. I don’t know why this needs to be spelled out Confused

BobbidyBob · 30/01/2021 15:39

I honestly don’t know what’s worse - the troll or all the “well-meaning” people begging for gory details and falling over themselves to offer a handhold and flowers and shouting down anyone who dares to question the OP when they start messing up dates. It was such an obvious wannabe (bad) writer that was basking in all the froth they’d created. People need to use a bit more critical thinking and stop getting sucked into tall tales blindly.

ssd · 30/01/2021 15:19

I totally believed this, was it all made up?

YetAnotherBeckyMumsnet · 30/01/2021 15:17

Hello @happy97 we can't ever be 100% sure about anyone but in this case, we had good reason to suspect that the OP was not genuine. We don't want to go into the exact reasons why (TSSDNCOP) as it kind of hands the trolls a how-to guide. Sorry to all who added to their thread, we know how rubbish it is when this happens, but, as the saying goes, on the internet, nobody knows you're a dog.

Onedropbeat · 30/01/2021 13:54

@Throwaway99

MN should get rid of the AMAs completely.
Agreed
gypsywater · 30/01/2021 13:23

It was so obviously a load of shit! Grin

ComtesseDeSpair · 30/01/2021 13:20

[quote marbellamarc]@rattymcratrat the lack of news wasn't a red flag to me as often murders get little press[/quote]
Most murders make at least the local news. Four British tourists including a pregnant woman who later lost her baby gunned down in a popular European resort in a case of mistaken identity in gang warfare? And not a murmur in any type of media? Yeah, right.

Throwaway99 · 30/01/2021 13:16

MN should get rid of the AMAs completely.

ComtesseDeSpair · 30/01/2021 13:14

It was pretty blatant trolling, from somebody who clearly hadn't thought hard enough at the start to realise that such an event would have received a lot of media attention. “I’m going to talk about this terribly terribly traumatic event which happened to me and that I’ve never felt able to talk about to anyone but my therapist before and invite a bunch of strangers to literally ask me anything about it; oh, but actually, whilst I can tell you details like my daughter’s name and what the killer said in court I can’t tell you any of the basic details like where it was because, uh, that would be outing. And it was never reported whatsoever by any media so that’s why you can’t find any reference to it if you google.”

happy97 · 30/01/2021 13:01

@CharityDingle

MN should vet AMAs, before they are started.

That's what happens on other websites.

Completely agree. Some of them are interesting to read, but some are clearly contentious.

This one had me fooled though.

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CharityDingle · 30/01/2021 12:32

MN should vet AMAs, before they are started.

That's what happens on other websites.

ParkheadParadise · 30/01/2021 12:15

Funny how there are always posters ready to defend the OP on threads like that one and think nothing of sending vile pm's if you dare ask a genuine question.