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'Liberal Feminism' subtopic

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PersonFrom2045 · 27/01/2020 18:21

Hi @MNHQ

Following on from this AIBU thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3804680-To-think-mumsnet-needs-a-separate-Gender-section?

There was limited interest in a 'separate Gender section' but some agreement that a 'Liberal Feminism' topic might be a good thing.

The idea of this would be to create a subtopic within FWR that was free of TWAW debate, without affecting any of the existing FWR topics where TWAW debate features heavily.

I'm aware you are reducing the number of topics at the moment rather than adding to them, but I thought it was worth floating the idea.

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PersonFrom2045 · 27/01/2020 18:58

The idea wouldn't be that posters had to believe TWAW, Blistory - just that the board wouldn't be the place to debate that issue. Liberal Feminism was one of the names suggested on the AIBU thread. It could be called 'Non Gender Critical' feminism, though I think a name which didn't attract non-genuine posters looking for a bunfight would be ideal so my personal thought would be to avoid 'gender' in the title.

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Blistory · 27/01/2020 18:53

But liberal feminists - in the true sense - don't believe TWAW as a rule.

midgebabe · 27/01/2020 18:51

Polly, can I object to the implied equivalence of gender critical and trans.

I think it's over simplifying, it can come across as accusing any gender critical,person of transphobia.

I thought liberal feminism was more to do with how much you feel women's issues are determined by individual as opposed to society influence?

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PersonFrom2045 · 27/01/2020 18:49

Yes, my thought was that it might encourage new posters. That's an interesting idea to replace an existing topic (though in the OP I was trying to avoid anything which might suggest taking space away from GC posters). 'Feminist Theory' doesn't seem to get many posts.

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Pottytrainingwoes · 27/01/2020 18:42

I think a subsection would work! There’s lots of feminist topics that seem unused at the moment that could be replaced with ‘non gender critical feminism’ or similar.
Lots of people want to get involved in feminism but are put off by the trans discussions that dominate.

Cohle · 27/01/2020 18:40

I personally don't think more division in feminism is the answer.

theflushedzebra · 27/01/2020 18:38

I think there is already too many subsections on Mumsnet already. But if it'll stop people whinging about FWR (which I doubt!) then sure.

ElizabethMainwaring · 27/01/2020 18:37

No.

RufustheLanglovingreindeer · 27/01/2020 18:35

I was certainly channeling someones mum 😀

RufustheLanglovingreindeer · 27/01/2020 18:35

Yep

midgebabe · 27/01/2020 18:33

Are you my mam?

RufustheLanglovingreindeer · 27/01/2020 18:32

Well I guess if people really want it...

I want doesnt get Grin

This is why I’m torn...I don’t like the idea myself

midgebabe · 27/01/2020 18:32

Topic separation does get difficult though. I have been on threads that have seemingly nothin to do with trans and then people whose motives I doubt wade in with a swerving post...

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PersonFrom2045 · 27/01/2020 18:31

I take your point, Midgebabe but the idea wouldn't be to separate posters - more to separate topics.

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midgebabe · 27/01/2020 18:30

Well I guess if people really want it...

RufustheLanglovingreindeer · 27/01/2020 18:29

midge

Those were my thoughts...but i would certainly go on both boards if the threads were interesting...i lurk a lot

RufustheLanglovingreindeer · 27/01/2020 18:28

I really can’t make my mind up if its a good idea or not

But

A lot of people seem to like the idea so I certainly think its worth a punt

midgebabe · 27/01/2020 18:28

Not sure I agree. I pick and mix my ideology. Also, I think it's bad to divide us into tribes...the more we talk with each other the more we can understand each other's POV