Permanent posting bans

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^this.

I think there are quite a few of us who know that MN moderation is inconsistent and dubious. As are their reasons for deleting and banning. Ditto their email responses when we ask questions. If challenged due to their inconsistency or lack of rationality they lie, gaslight and obfuscate. In my experience langcleg was never, ever, rude aggressive or deliberately argumentative. Quite the opposite. But MN will try to malign and disrepute her to justify their decision to ban her. Well done MN, go well.

Really angry at Lang's banning. Seriously MN? Seriously?

I'm here to register my disgust at Lung's ban. She was a visitor to Thighland and much respected by us. Why is MN kowtowing to abusive, nasty TRA's now? Please note I'm specifying abusive, nasty TRA's, not all trans people. I'm sure there will be trans people out there who would also be disgusted at this treatment.

Solidarity with Langcleg

A lurker really, but solidarity to you all

Mumsnet is just a commercial organisation. Doesn't give a fuck about FWR as long as they keep making a profit. Shame on you.

Well said Tit.

The main thing I can see which might be objected to was the criticism of MN policy.

While I appreciate that this is MN's ball and they can take it home any time they want, we did not agree to the Special Rules when we signed up. How could we, when there is no transparency or consistency to them or how they are applied? When we don't know from one day to the next, one thread to the next, when something will suddenly get a strike that did not warrant one yesterday? When we are told one thing by the mods ("you will get an email in X circumstances") and then posters who find themselves in X circumstances receive no email to explain their sanction? And now we cannot draw attention to this lack of clarity, we cannot express unease at the censorial approach MNHQ is taking, we cannot point out the irony of the mods being subject to coercive control by those who add no value to this site, while still MN purports to be a place where posters can come for support while being coercively controlled, for threat of being banned.

There is having rules to prevent a free-for-all, and there is outright authoritarianism.

Well done @MNHQ, you have banned an expert on child safeguarding and coercive control to pander to this:

twitter.com/sakuranoseirei/status/1219677162166476800?s=21

We mail with regards to deletions

Is this a very new policy? I've had a small number of posts deleted over the years but I've never once had a notification of a deletion.

Perhaps your mail system and processes need a bit of a test?

Well done HQ, the feelings of twitter trolls prioritised over child safeguarding expertise on a supposedly woman centred parenting site.

Once you’ve annoyed MNHQ for whatever reason (it doesn’t even need to be FWR related) they get the banhammer out immediately. And then to top it off, ignore all emails sent after the ban.

Even if they admitted they suspended the account in question multiple times before wrongly in emails.

The moderation is and always has been appalling.

And please could you un-ban Maryz at the same time.

So, getting banned from MN apparently gives you more influence with the moderation team here than being an actual long standing contributing member.
Interesting business model.

Mumsnet, is it true that Joss Prior (a previously banned person) was talking with two Mumsnet moderators about how to get posters 'taken down' ?

Or is Joss Prior lying about working with Mumsnet moderators to ban people like LangCleg ?

If it is true, can we please know who Joss plus mods plan to target now that LangCleg has been deleted ?

If it is not true, could you please comment on the LangCleg thread in FWR to that effect ?

Thanks.

MNHQ you've been courting this coercive behaviour from people you are scared of on twitter since May 2018.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/site_stuff/3238536-Mumsnet-encouraging-brigading-by-Twitter-TRAs

This tweet is still up:

twitter.com/MumsnetTowers/status/991593570955153408

Shon 'enjoy your erasure' Faye.

Aren't you embarrassed?

Look at the screenshots upthread @MNHQ. People who are not part of MN are mis-using the reporting system to get women who they've targeted banned from this site.

You're being played. We can all see it so why can't you?

I agree. LangCleg knew the rules and was measured in her responses. If it's possible for her to be banned it means anyone is fair game for those seeking to shut us up.

I haven't ever seen LangCleg be anything other than reasoned in posts.

This. Even when I disagreed with Lang's opinion she was always thoughtful and precise. She may have been uncompromising but never rude.

The main thing I can see which might be objected to was the criticism of MN policy. Surely MN has big enough shoulders to cope?

Is there no scope to readmit a very popular poster @MNHQ?

Those tweets are sickening.

There are over 450 posts on that Langcleg thread in 3 hrs mainly in support of Langcleg and in shock that she has gone. She was a real asset to this site with her calm and considered explanations. People come for the parenting tips and stay for the informed discussion. You know that. The FWR board and reasoned posters like Langcleg are part of that.

I understand that FWR is held to a higher standard and all the posters try to adhere to that as much as possible but when the rules change and are unwritten, it is impossible for posters to remain within them.

Please I urge you to reconsider.