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Daily fucking mail

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Pinkyyy · 12/07/2019 08:11

Hi MNHQ,

Since you're so interested in improving the site lately, like for instance; asking people to pay for something that's free. Perhaps you'd be interested to know that there's something that's ruining the site for many users.

The daily mail are taking more and more threads and publishing them. You must be aware of how posters feel about this, you're constantly having to delete people's comments etc after the thread is stolen. So why aren't you doing anything about it?

Yes you've probably covered it in your small print, but you know fully well that it's now stopping people posting for advice. Perhaps people might pay your silly subscription fee if you solved the real problems, instead of giving out stupid emojis.

Perhaps a topic that's not allowed to be stolen from?

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WorraLiberty · 13/07/2019 16:44

Seriously, use your enemies strength against them. And believe me, the Daily Mail is the enemy of every decent person in Britain today.

Apart from Mumsnetters it would seem.

Mumsnet has always been full of Daily Mail readers. It's by far and away the most linked to newspaper on here and has been for many years.

As an aside, I can't believe the sheer ignorance of some MNetters regarding what journalists can and can't do with public posts on the internet.

Wise up because you're supposed to be teaching your children about internet safety.

How in God's name can you do that if you truly believe a public forum is ever going to be a private space? Hmm

hobnobsaremyfavourite · 13/07/2019 14:05

Oh ffs people are actually stupid enough to believe that
A. You can stop people picking up and rehashing threads from here - it's a public forum.
B. Writing a pathetic "daily mail are cunts" disclaimer will make a scrap of difference
People that stupid shouldn't be allowed access to a working computer

TheRedBarrows · 12/07/2019 17:43

The threads regurgitated as stories crop up everywhere, from little local advertising rags to the broadsheets.

And each and everyone of them, with their inevitable link, brings traffic and therefore revenue to MN.

Onesailwait · 12/07/2019 17:23

whereismyfigleaf How would that work? Pretty sure most journalists know how to cut & paste.

Shockers · 12/07/2019 16:59

I can’t be bothered reading threads that start with ranting at the DM. It’s just become another MN fad.

ssd · 12/07/2019 16:46

I'm getting sick of posters telling mnhq what to do
If you don't like the bloody site don't use it
Mn can't babysit you and keep all your stories private this is 2019

bruffin · 12/07/2019 16:43

I think they just blur over.
If someone puts a silly DM caveat, does it mean that its ok for another paper to lift the thread. Its ok for the Mirror, just not the DM.
Its a childish games that just make the poster look not very bright.

Whereismyfigleaf · 12/07/2019 16:33

I have seen threads quoted on dm, they have screenshots of posts (including usernames). I was wondering, is there something the papers wouldn't want to print/copy, eg a specific swear word or a 🖕, you could put in the beginning of all your posts? That they wouldn't be prepared to present to their precious readers?

Any ideas?

Fromage · 12/07/2019 16:08

SOD OFF SHITBAGS

Thanks for calling me an idiot, bruffin.

It makes a difference in that should a reader look this up themselves, they see what we think of their choice of rag, and maybe they'll FO or learn something.

YOU ARE UGLY AND YOUR MOTHER DRESSES YOU FUNNY

bruffin · 12/07/2019 15:50

Some idiots do that on here anyway, doesnt make a blind bit of difference.

Fromage · 12/07/2019 15:39

DAILY MAIL READERS CAN GO SUCK DONALD TRUMPS SWEATY TANGERINE BALLSACK

Like so.

STOP HARVESTING MUMSNET AND USING OTHER PEOPLE'S DISTRESS TO SELL ADVERTISING SPACE YOU HOARD OF BONE HEADED FUCKNUTS

Fromage · 12/07/2019 15:35

Maybe we should bold type insults to the daily mail and journalists as header and footer to all our posts.

bruffin · 12/07/2019 15:21

I think lots of threads are planted by lazy journalists who use them in their papers
I do wonder what percentage of threads are genuine atm. Threads deleted every day because of suspect posters.
I think MN should stop allowing NC to start with, or limit it to special requests .

beanaseireann · 12/07/2019 15:14

I think lots of threads are planted by lazy journalists who use them in their papers.
Mumsnet HQ dont mind - it gets them loads of extra publicity.
Mumsnet is a successful business and is a bit removed now from when it first started with its premise of Mums helping other Mums with advice.
This extra publicity helps the business hugely as advertisers are told of the numbers of people on Mumsnet, this then will hoik up advertising costs on Mumsnet.

Sparklingbrook · 12/07/2019 15:01

No, I think it's just MN at the moment.

SerendipityJane · 12/07/2019 14:58

This thread has taken an odd turn...

...
Life is queer with it's twists and turns,
As every one of us soon learns.
...

Sparklingbrook · 12/07/2019 14:56

This thread has taken an odd turn...

SerendipityJane · 12/07/2019 14:50

Do grow up!

Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. Did you deliberately mean to echo the most disgusting aspect of the Mail - it's "all grown up" tag line for sexualising young girls ?

www.vice.com/en_uk/article/avn35k/all-grown-up-sexing-up-the-internet-with-the-daily-mail

forums.digitalspy.com/discussion/1747279/all-grown-up-the-mail-onlines-obsession-with-young-girls

I am "grown up". But most assuredly not in a way that the Daily Mail would be interested in.

bruffin · 12/07/2019 14:47

honestly SeredipityJane, all newspapers lift stories,The Mirror supported the blackshirts and even wanted to do a Facist woman of the year beauty contest, they also lift stories from here, they also lift "DM" sad face pictures from local papers . "DM"sadface photos are usually taken by local reporters, they end up in all the newspapers

bruffin · 12/07/2019 14:37

Seriously, use your enemies strength against them. And believe me, the Daily Mail is the enemy of every decent person in Britain today
Do grow up!

SerendipityJane · 12/07/2019 14:19

I'm not sure what people think MNHQ could do to stop this?

Not try to stop it ?

Seriously, use your enemies strength against them. And believe me, the Daily Mail is the enemy of every decent person in Britain today.

twattymctwatterson · 12/07/2019 14:16

I'm not sure what people think MNHQ could do to stop this?

SerendipityJane · 12/07/2019 14:15

If your thread has been lifted by another source, and you’re unhappy about it, get in touch with us and we’ll do what we can to help.

How about a special "DailyMail" forum where posts that have been lifted could live once spotted ? I mean it might have the unfortunate side effect of causing even more anguish for the Daily Mails team of highly paid search engine gurus (I bet they get paid more than the journalists ...) as such a concentration of discussion about the Daily Mail would be sure to affect their PageRanking.

Still, you shouldn't start something you can't finish.

MNHQ
soniamumsnet · 12/07/2019 13:29

Hello everyone, thanks for your comments - as a few posters have already noted, this issue is something which crops up pretty frequently but we’re always happy to clarify our position.

There’s not a huge amount we can do about it as other outlets would likely claim Fair Use, which is difficult to dispute. In their view, they're just 'reporting' what was said on the thread. Being an open site has a lot of advantages, but this kind of thing is a consequence of that, we're afraid. On the upside, the openness of Mumsnet brings the wisdom of a sizeable crowd, and a huge variety of opinions.

We always like to remind our users that this is a public forum, searchable by Google, legally linkable to - and quotable by - anyone. For this reason our users can be as anonymous as they want to be, (and you can always make use of our name change facility) and we always advise people to be circumspect with what they share online.

If your thread has been lifted by another source, and you’re unhappy about it, get in touch with us and we’ll do what we can to help.

TheJellyBabyMadeMeDoIt · 12/07/2019 12:23

I live in Cheshire. On my Facebook feed I read an article about a mum with kids with silly names, it was a link to the Widnes Reporter (or something), I then saw they'd lifted it from The Liverpool Echo and THEN reading on the family are from Hull.

It's rife. The papers need to keep current and have a fast turnover of news to keep our interest. Its expensive to pay journalists to find original content, so they pilfer Mumsnet, Reddit and every other relevant forum as well as other newspapers.

Mumsnet is no different and it is available to all. They don't advertise as being a safe, private platform. User discretion advised.