When wilk Mumsnet or MPs challenge tabloids that take site chats and publish without permission ?

This thread is hilarious.

What happens at the stroke of 11pm?

OP, do you know what patronising means? Here are some examples of patronising writing:
"Please reflect and think"
"Maybe, I should direct this to people that regularly use GDPR professionally"
"Ok let's start from scratch"
"I'm not sure how a number of pp have really misunderstood"
" it's very worrying to me that commenting so far PPs cannot debate meaning of personal data eg for a start"
"Head *thud
Maybe I shouldn't have asked at gone 11pm"

Guess where those came from? It's all the more patronising given that many of the people you were disagreeing with clearly are GDPR users professionally.

Glad to see by your reference to possible test cases that you half-admit that you don't actually have any basis for your interpretation. MNHQ can only go on the law as it is, not as it might just be in the future if anyone gets around to bringing a test case and if that test case results in any different interpretation. MNHQ's response was polite, but then they always are, I wouldn't read that as any sort of validation.

Maybe I shouldn't have asked at gone 11pm

Maybe you should have checked what the GDPR actually says before posting?

Unfortunately MNHQ have a conflict of interest on this.

They provide the forum to enable people to share information about themselves. If it's controversial so much the better. Without the juicy gossip, the site would be pretty dull. Any publicity they get from the Daily Fail is grist to the mill. No publicity is bad publicity as they say. So HQ probably see it as a happy byproduct if the Fail pick up on a MN Parking or NDN from Hell thread

Its 100% the responsibility of the poster what they post, the disclaimers and the warnings mean they are given Full Informed Consent at all times. MNHQ isn't holding a gun to their head!

I got a thread deleted recently because there was a link to another PUBLIC forum......................

My name is Shitbag actually it's Clare
I live in Edinburgh.
I earn £72,000.
I am an accountant.
I have a dog called Joey and Siamese cats called George and Mabel.
My partner plays brass in a well-known symphony orchestra.
My house is worth £435,000
I am half-Polish, quarter-Irish, quarter-English by birth and was born in March 1969.

There you go OP. How's that for personal data?

Can you please tell me how you know any/some/all/none of it is true and therefore how GDPR has been breached when I have knowingly posted it on the internet, in full awareness of MN's privacy policy?

OP? Care to come back now it’s morning?

You can thud your head all you like OP, but your time would be better spent understanding the difference between public postings and private correspondence.

"It really worries me that this is a limited (log in or search) niche forum for relatively safe chats (limited to those that are interested)"

There are a number of misrepresentations in this.

Anyone can read or browse MN, and anyone can register as a user.(with no verification of identity)

It is a wide-open talk site and one of the largest in UK. It is not niche - it positions itself as for parents, but is open to absolutely anyone parent or not.

There are no safe spaces on MN and, even the one topic you need to be logged in to see, they are not limited to those interested. Anyone, globally can see what is there regardless of their level of interest.

Globally published material can be used by the press. When you post on MN you are publishing globally. The press are doing nothing illegal.

There are periodic threads about tabloid use of threads (which is much deplored but not because it is illegal) and I'm pleased to see the the patience of the posters who actually know/work with GDPR or related publishing issues, in explaining it as many times as is needed.

But to put it in fairly basic, non-legal terms - never ever confuse global publication on MN with the somewhat safer space of a closed FB group

I wasn’t privy to the discussions but I would imagine any investigation into possible legal breaches when the newspapers started doing this would have revolved largely around copyright/intellectual property concerns rather than privacy.

Remember: "if you're not paying for the product, you are the product.

Yep, always worth baring in mind on a public board.

couple points, every website is 'named'

posts are public, this is a public forum.

yes while under gdpr permission for some things is limited, but those things are personal details. not the content of posts. legally if you put up your address name band account an pin number in a post, the tabloids could post them and it would be 50/50 if you could actually se them, because posts are public. this is all explained in the GDPR, worth a read if your gonna talk about it.

tabloids arent bypassing anything, they are taking something in the public realm and shining a light on it. if they where publishing your private details, that would be another story

‘personal data’ means any information relating to an identified or identifiable natural person (‘data subject’); an identifiable natural person is one who can be identified, directly or indirectly.

this is why they always take pictures of the posts and blur out the name(its indirectly identifiable), then they havent put up personel data. the contents of your posts are not personal data.

hope this helps

I've asked once, I'll ask again - what are you classing as personal information OP?

Posters personal data which they provide to MN when registering is not accessible outside of MN.

Flowery 👏🏼

@WillLokireturn - this is a question that has been asked a number of times, since lazy journalists started mining MN threads for material, and it is my understanding that MNHQ and their legal team have looked carefully into the matter, and concluded that the journalists are not doing anything illegal.

Is it morally and ethically wrong - maybe yes. Is it lazy journalism - definitely. But according to MNHQ it doesn’t contravene the law.

I can’t identify you OP. Therefore what you are typing now is not personal data.

If you typed your full name, that would be personal data, however as you would have yourself chosen to make it available to 7 billion people by putting it on a public website, no one would be “stealing” it or misusing it.

There’s no point

If you want to debate GDPR you need to understand it and you very clearly don’t.

Anyone can read here without logging in. It's not limited or secure in any way.

It really worries you?🙄

Ask again in the morning if you like, I’ll give you the same answer.

What personal data has been taken without consent OP?

Where someone gets a thread taken down, it’s not because their personal data has been misused, it’s usually because they’ve over-shared.