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Mumsnet data breach - please read

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JustineMumsnet · 07/02/2019 12:40

As some of you know, we're very sorry to say that we’ve become aware of a data breach which affected some Mumsnet user accounts

What happened?
There was a problem affecting Mumsnet user logins between 2pm of Tuesday 5 February and 9am on Thursday 7 February 2019. During this time, it appears that a user logging into their account at the same time as another user logged in, could have had their account info switched.

Why has this happened?
We believe that a software change, as part of moving our services to the cloud, that was put in place on Tuesday pm was the cause of this issue. We reversed that change this morning. Since then there have been no further incidents.

How did Mumsnet find out this was happening?
Late last night, a Mumsnet user alerted us to the fact that they were able to log in to and view the details of another user’s account.

What information could have been affected?
If someone other than you logs into your account, they can see:
your email address
your account details
your posting history
your personal messages

They would NOT have been able to see your password because that data is encrypted and they would not have been able to change your password because you need to input a password to do that.

How many people are affected?
At the moment, we don’t know for sure but we are investigating the logs and hope to know definitively very soon. We do know that approximately 4000 user accounts were logged into in the period in question but we don’t as yet know which of those were actually breached (ie also affected by a mismatched login), although we know for sure it wasn’t every account. We have been made aware by users of 14 incidents when this occurred and have contacted the individuals that we know were affected. We are working hard to establish if there were more.

What have you done about it so far?
We’ve reversed the software change that was made on Tuesday pm, and this morning we forced a log out, requiring users to log in again before they can post. This ensures that anyone who had inadvertently logged in as someone else will no longer be logged in to the wrong account.

Where can I get updates?
We’re posting about the situation on this thread, and will update as and when we have further relevant info.

What happens next?
When we have any further substantial information affecting the security of Mumsnet user accounts we will send another email and post on the site.

We’re very sorry.
You’ve every right to expect your Mumsnet account to be secure and private. We are working urgently to discover exactly how this breach happened and to learn and improve our processes. We will also keep you informed about what is happening. We know some of you will be very worried by the possibility that your account has been breached - please mail us on [email protected] if you’d like to discuss your individual account details. We will of course be reporting this incident to the Information Commissioner.

Thanks to all who brought this to our attention.

Justine

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SpringForEver · 07/02/2019 16:42

I was shut out of my account about a week ago so started again. I recently received an e.mail regarding a security breach on Houzz which was discovered in December and wondered if there was a connection.

This is not a surprise to me and is the third time there has been a problem since I have been on MN, which is not a long time compared to many others, maybe 3 years or so.

From experience there always seems to be more than one site affected by these breaches.

It surprises me that people sign up on here with their own personal details.

HelenaDove · 07/02/2019 16:42

Oh thats bloody bad.

Ive checked my e mails No recent ones from MN.

WorraLiberty · 07/02/2019 16:42

Olderthan40 are you sure?

Because you don't have any posting history at all.

Tooldemont · 07/02/2019 16:41

MN need to set up an urgent helpline for people. Lots are worried and need to speak to someone

GerryblewuptheER · 07/02/2019 16:41

Thanks Smile

ohheyfreakingout · 07/02/2019 16:40

@olderthan40 so the issue hasn’t been fixed yet?! What’s going on?!

SpartacusAutisticusAHF · 07/02/2019 16:39

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youarenotkiddingme · 07/02/2019 16:39

Wendy I do the same. After previous breach I have a specific MN email account that's only used to sign in here!

SpartacusAutisticusAHF · 07/02/2019 16:38

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Olderthan40 · 07/02/2019 16:37

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Wendywoo1000 · 07/02/2019 16:35

I don’t know if i had an email. No idea what my password was for it!

But i always use an email which is new as my “proper” and important addresses are never liked to sites like this.

So ive created a new one again.

loobyloo1234 · 07/02/2019 16:34

I think out of courtesy, MN should have been sending all users an email to let them know of a possible issue. If we didn’t login today, we wouldn’t necessarily have even seen this thread which is very poor indeed

GerryblewuptheER · 07/02/2019 16:33

Is there any way to blanket delete all pms? It's very painstaking going having to individually delete

Smotheroffive · 07/02/2019 16:33

This isnt just a case of some mners logging in could see another's account details. This is a major security breach. Which ITer was responsible for this. Its clear from all the threats particularly at the moment, that this is highly likely to happen, so why are processes so flimsy as to have not robustly protected this as a very likely eventuality?!

There are very vulnerable users on MN, who are victims of targeted attacks, as well as the 'usual suspects'. What can you tell us about how safe our data is, and I don't mean platitudes like 'safety of data is important to MN' etc. but cast iron measures explicitly expressed to stop the publication of data to unfriendly intruders!! Prevention of yet further breaches?

Slightlyjaded · 07/02/2019 16:29

Google Chrome is my browser of choice and I haven't been able to login that way. I am here courtesy of Safari (which I hate). Is there a reason why Chrome won't work? Is anyone else experiencing this? (once I enter my password it won't load).

Tooldemont · 07/02/2019 16:28

Of course their working on the issue, this site makes millions a month. But it seems like their very very amateur running caused it in the first place..

UnilakTea · 07/02/2019 16:20

I think that Mumsnet are working on the issue, and just to let everyone know they don't have to report it to the ICO just yet they have 72 hours to report a breach! As Mumsnet have stated above, the logged users out of the app as an extra safety measure. Also even with the ISO 27001 doesn't make them immune as all it is is a information security management system. More to the point they should have a DPO data protection officer and SIRO a senior information risk owner... They are working on it, it's happened... Just wait for an update.

Tooldemont · 07/02/2019 16:17

Oh god, another one Hmm

KatherinaMinola · 07/02/2019 16:14

Bloody hell. Not again.

Wandaaa · 07/02/2019 16:14

I posted on the original thread last night that I had access to someone else's profile. I haven't received an email but it must be possible that someone could have accessed my profile.

youarenotkiddingme · 07/02/2019 16:07

That explains why is been logged out!
I was going to report that as odd as i hadn't logged myself out.

Thanks for clear explanation.

At4oclockthenormalworld · 07/02/2019 16:06

Kenne Grin
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Alexa* now I'm missing all my watched/on threads!

I should probably have all tech taken off me full stop.

HelenaDove · 07/02/2019 16:04

oh for Christs sake..........................AGAIN.

i managed to log in via MN but like with others i was also offered the option to log in via fb.

PomBearWithAnOFRS · 07/02/2019 16:03

And I appear to have time travelled! I have my OFRS back and the watch list is from last April.
Curiouser and curiouser said Alice... 😁

londonrach · 07/02/2019 16:02

Abit strange that it gave the option of facebook etc. I never use facebook to log into anything and the reason i dont use trip advisor now