“Racism” towards the Irish on here

Thank you Sakura 7.
On what topic on Mumsnet was the deleted thread ?

No, you’re wrong. They were afforded essentially military trials, and almost all of them declined to recognise the court or enter a plea.

Did you know as an English woman that you assasinated the signatories to the Proclamation without trial? Just answer truthfully. Did you know that?

Woah. Think this is getting a bit out of hand. I'm not a fan of accusing people of being responsible for past atrocities when they weren't even alive...

It was being shot without trial.

I reluctantly agree. It's not a hostile kind of racism, as in we don't like your kind round here. It's more that the English completely and truly believe that being English is better, more civilised somehow. I don't care that much though. I sometimes chime in on the threads but most of them haven't been to Ireland. The rest of Europe prefers us, favours us even. Swings and roundabouts.

And to be strictly accurate, the executed men in 1916 were afforded trials - field general court martials. Ireland was under martial law so “normal” judicial process was suspended.

It’s not quite the same thing as being shot without trial.

I was translating it for them [grin}

*Proclamation

Did you know as an English woman that you assasinated the signatories to the Proclamation without trial? Just answer truthfully. Did you know that?

Glad to see you got the name of the Prclamation right on the third attempt, SheBangsIt

I had noticed recently, in the shadow of the looming Brexit shitstorm, that the pale-greens of Ireland are becoming decidedly more...Emerald. It’s particularly obvious here in the North.

Still, I never thought I’d see the day when someone nailed The Proclamation to a thread on mumsnet.

What do you know about it though?

Honestly I'm not a great fan of nationalism, it often seems not to bring out the best in people or nations. If often carries with it a sense of other with it and measuring yourself positively against that. It leads to delusions such as Brexit quite easily. Left untrammelled nationalism raises the political retoric to unsafe levels and can actually kill people.
I would like to make a plea for a lot less nationalism in the world and a lot more internationalism.

*immersed

My daughter is 14 and hell or high water would not lead me to bringing her to school in London where all they seem capable of is 'innit'.
Meanwhile, back at the ranch, she is emerged in Irish language, culture, dancing, singing and sports. Over here it seems to be about your hair innit. No fucking way.
I'm sorry to my English people that I live among, but the Irish education system has and always will be superior to yours. Yours includes children from private schools into top universities. Ours is based on merit.

In History, we covered Irish History obviously, but we covered British Imperialism, colonialism, American war of Independence. What does an English History class constitute? A study of your various monarchs?

Didn't think so. Because they are entirely ignorant of the blood they shed.

I dare one British person to come on here and tell me that they even know one thing about the proclamation? One?

Be proud of our heritage, particularly our freedom and don't ever be cowed down by British imperialism. Let them off to delude themselves, but don't be cowed.

rant over lol

Shot dead by the British Army. Important to note. Without Trial. By the British Army. In Ireland. Not that many years ago.

So, Irish comrades. Don't be disillusioned by the English hypocrisy or superiority. Know what our predecessors died for. Freedom.

Joseph Mary Plunkett is the poet and sickly guy about whom the song Grace was written.
Here's a snippet of that.