“Racism” towards the Irish on here

I'm so relaxed, I'm about to fall asleep lol. I just love my Irish culture.

A ludramán is a man. Equivalent for a female is óinseach. ;)

Shebangsit

Calm your shit will ya.

No one on Mumsnet assassinated any one who signed the proclamation.

So relax your ass.

With regard to Brexit I don't think the predominantly English Brexiteers have any interest in any citizens either or their own nation or any other who don't agree with them including and not limited to remainer English, Welsh, Scots, NI and pretty much all of Gibraltar and then the rest of Europe.

@Giantbanger
I agree. There's an ignorant and unpleasant underlying undertone to a lot of the posts on here regarding Ireland and its history. That the Mods really can't be bothered to shutdown.

But the dislike of the "PADDYS" causing a bit of a fuss about Brexit the GFA Irish border and the reason it is so important to a stable peace, on both sides. Seems to be becoming a more prominent theme in the UK media. Mumsnet included

I’m Irish, you ludramán.

And sorry to pull the qualifications card but I have multiple higher degrees in Irish history. Your Christian Brothers, faith and fatherland version of Irish history is unhelpful to say the very least.

Agree, Varadkar won't be messed with easily. He's a doctor, so from the Irish education system, that means he scored in the top 1%. He is very confident. He won't be pushed over. Arlene however is throwing a strop.

she I cannot comment in detail on Ireland but I know in Scotland it was never that simple. There were always Scots on both sides, killing each other. History is often pretty grey and murky.

beanaseireann it was in AIBU

Just because you declared it marshall law, doesn't mean that was what it was. Lol. Is that what you were taught?

With regard to Brexit, I think the British politicians' irritation with Ireland that they're not capitulating to the demands of the British government shows that they're grappling with Ireland's right to suit its own interests first on this one! I respect (and I'm relieved) that Leo and Simon not at all afraid to put Ireland's interests above Britain's.

Agreed. I'm half Irish and wasn't pleased to see that statement.

And it's ok because we were under marshall law by you lot? We really were not. You lot came in and murdered us.

Some great posts on here.
I bet it the original poster was goading other races/cultures the post would have been zapped straight away.
Even if it was about literature and an 'interesting' discussion had followed.
Shame on you mnhq.

Yes, that's exactly what they did in the 1916 proclamation. All of the signatories to that were then shot dead in Dublin.

This is demonstrating the raised temperature of debate around nationalism really well. No English woman on here is going to have shot anyone ( or they are very unlikely to) it simply isn't helpful to pretend they have. Every country has atrocities of one sort or another in its past, the blame for these cannot be laid in the present tense on current generations.

@LadyGregorysToothbrush

Ireland isd a free state now though, so you can bugger off with your Brexit worries. Deal with it yourself. We don't want it.

You don’t actually know what you’re talking about, do you.

The 1916 rebels declared a “Free State”, aye right

You think you gave them the option?
They declared Ireland a Free State so you shot them.

Where do you think the records of the 1916 trials come from, for goodness sake? How else do we get Connolly’s speech to the court?

I’m not defending anything m, FFS

I’m pointing out your historical inaccuracies. They were afforded a trial under the existing regime - martial law (inadequate though we may feel it might have been)

You're actually defending the execution of 8 men? Without trial?