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“Racism” towards the Irish on here

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Giantbanger · 30/10/2018 10:09

Can we please talk about it and can you please get your mods some training.

There was a thread that stood from yesterday. The op was goady and people were reporting the fuck out of it from yesterday.

It went this morning because the op was previously banned for being goady. No surprises there then.

But it contained a post from a member of MNHQ that really bothered me and I would like to discuss.

Add message | Report | Message poster EstherMumsnet (MNHQ) Mon 29-Oct-18 19:43:38
Hello!
Thanks for all the reports on this one. We'd like to leave this up as it's a pretty interesting discussion - one for the colonial/post colonial literature experts perhaps (yes - we know there's an argument over whether Irish literature counts as such!) - so please keep to the spirit of the site when discussing this and make your points politely. Thanks

So if there’s a “racist” thread about the Irish, it is an interesting discussion and the Irish need to be polite when telling racists they are racists.

(And Yes. I know in the dictionary definition Irish isn’t a race. It’s a subset ethnicity of Caucasian but the term is used more broadly in general use than the dictionary definition.)

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peanut2017 · 06/11/2018 20:32

Good to see @MichaelMumsnet

Thanks to @Giantbanger and @IStandWithPosie with bringing this to our attention and getting this result

pleasegotowork · 05/11/2018 19:37

Thank you Michael.

DramaAlpaca · 05/11/2018 19:10

Thank you MNHQ.

Have some probably much needed Gin

LivLemler · 05/11/2018 17:05

Thanks Michael.

Hopefully this is a new start and things will improve.

IStandWithPosie · 05/11/2018 16:27

Same giant.

witches if you haven’t already reported them make sure and do so.

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Giantbanger · 05/11/2018 16:16

I intend to be must more proactive in reporting any racist goady threads and posts. I would in the past have eye rolled and slid past, but now I am going to report anything and everything I see.

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WitchesHatRim · 05/11/2018 16:12

Looking forward to hearing about mumsnet’s plans to be more sensitive to anti-Irish threads and comments. I’m hoping not to see a repeat of goady-thread-about-Irish-writers-gate again!

Or goady anything tbh.

There have been two goading the English threads today. All unnecessary

CraicMammy · 05/11/2018 15:58

Another thank you from me.

Looking forward to hearing about mumsnet’s plans to be more sensitive to anti-Irish threads and comments. I’m hoping not to see a repeat of goady-thread-about-Irish-writers-gate again!

☘️

MarDhea · 05/11/2018 15:52

Thank you MichaelMumsnet and MNHQ. Thanks

IStandWithPosie · 05/11/2018 15:26

It was a group effort, thanks to everyone who supported it and to everyone who took the time to listen and understand.

Swanhild · 05/11/2018 14:31

Thanks, Michael. Good work banger, Posie and others.

Raydan · 05/11/2018 14:23

Well done Banger and Posie

Raydan · 05/11/2018 14:22

Fantastic! Thank you @Michaelmumsnet Smile

ny20005 · 05/11/2018 14:19

Thanks Michael 😊

Noviceoftheweek · 05/11/2018 14:18

Utterly ludicrous. It’s clear that many of those who complained have far too much time on their hands.

JaneJeffer · 05/11/2018 14:16

I'm so relieved I can just go back to chatting about Emmerdale now!

Thanks Giant and IStand for your efforts Shamrock

IStandWithPosie · 05/11/2018 14:12

Another thank you here. This actually means something. This is a positive step towards tackling the problem of anti Irish sentiment on MN. Thank you for setting the example and listening to us.

JaneJeffer · 05/11/2018 14:04

Thanks Michael Thanks

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Giantbanger · 05/11/2018 14:01

Thank you @Michaelmumsnet. That gesture is very much appreciated.

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MichaelMumsnet · 05/11/2018 13:59

Hi all and thanks for the feedback, we appreciate it.

As it's become clear that having this particular phrase in the guidelines was upsetting a fair few of you, we've updated the Talk guidelines to say,

'It's not our policy to delete swearwords (we're all adults, after all) but we do draw the line at obscenity, racist, ageist, disablist, homophobic or transphobic language, and wording that is truly awful.'

Thanks,
MNHQ

SmiledWithTheRisingSun · 05/11/2018 10:40

Why would Irish literature NOT count as such?? Hmm

selfidentifyinggiraffe · 05/11/2018 10:27

And no it wasn't quite give me examples of horrible racist phrases

It was give me examples of which phrases are offensive so I can remember and explain how our language has developed to a point someone uses a phrase knowing what it means but not why we ever said that for it in the first place... and then that why we getting rid of them

I'm fairly educated, not over not under - away from mumsnet I certainly am not unique in not realising how some of them started in my age group

selfidentifyinggiraffe · 05/11/2018 10:23

Ah right ok... nope wasn't trying to be goady... obviously I hadn't translated to mumsnet well enough how the conversation evolved 🙄

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Giantbanger · 05/11/2018 10:09

Your thread was give me examples of horrible racist phrases and you don't know what was wrong with it? Really?

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WitchesHatRim · 05/11/2018 10:04

I had a thread which has been deleted for "not being in the spirit of the site

Yes because it was deliberetly goady. Basically calling the English thick stupid and asking for racist sayings.

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