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Blackoutblinds · 02/10/2018 07:01

Hi mnhq I wonder if you could tell me what your view is on @‘ing people if you’ve been asked not to?

I have had it happen on a thread and it’s made me feel really quite annoyed. I asked the person to stop and not do it and they responded with a “you can’t tell people what to do”

I can appreciate that POV, but it seems contradictory to me given the rules around being polite and esoecially given the rules in FWR that have recently been implemented.

Could you please confirm what the official MNHQ stance is on this? Ie on continuing to @ someone after they have asked you yo stop?

Thanks

(I have disabled the emails but that doesn’t stop the person continuing to @ me which I really dislike. I can’t explain why I don’t like being @‘ed I just don’t. It feels aggressive and hectoring and bullying. I don’t expect anyone else feels the same but I do. )

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TrashPanda · 02/10/2018 12:29

Mumsnet won't change the feature, no. But they should be able to confirm whether this will be treated as a personal attack/goady behaviour.

It's not equivalent to asking Sainsbury's to stop selling bread. I use the title Miss and don't like Ms, if I ask people to call me Miss and they continue to use Ms after I've explained I dislike it, they are being rude and using Ms to annoy/upset/goad me. Guidelines say goady or attacking behaviour isn't allowed.

OP is asking if it will be treated as goady behaviour that can be reported, not asking Mumsnet to remove the feature.

rainingcatsanddog · 02/10/2018 12:23

OP - the difference between your situation and the FWR rules is that it's easier for MN to apply a blanket rule for everyone rather than allow @ for everybody except you. The only way that you can deal with it is to leave the conversation.

Tahani · 02/10/2018 12:21

If they are being rude then report them

You can't expect mn to change a feature because you are having a issue with Smith member. It's like me saying Sainsbury's must stop selling bread because someone feeds the ducks bread and it's bad for them.

Cindersdonegood · 02/10/2018 11:44

...Although Facebook does have the blocking option. Mumsnet being an anonymous forum does not. Anonymity is why name changes are a large part of forum's features. Blocking would require members to be identifiable meaning no one would want to use it really.

Cindersdonegood · 02/10/2018 11:41

It's like using any Internet public forum, you cannot stop someone replying directly to you. Same goes for Facebook and all the rest. Now if the posters are attacking you, contravening mumsnet talk guild lines then they can be reported to be removed or banned but someone speaking to you? No. The only way to prevent that is removing yourself and not reading the replies.

Blackoutblinds · 02/10/2018 11:26

Anya I know that but my question is how would it be viewed by hq if someone continues to @ you after being asked to stop

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AnyaMumsnet · 02/10/2018 11:21

Hi there BlackoutBlinds,

Thanks for getting in touch.

As other posters have mentioned, we won't be changing the feature anytime soon - it's very popular amongst Mumsnetters and is a useful tool for discussion. We know you've done so already, but there's the option to turn off emails for mentions, which you can find in your talk preferences.

As usual, if you're worried about anything on the site, or see anything which you think is goady or breaks talk guidelines, let us know and MNHQ will be happy to take a look.

Yourenotericlove · 02/10/2018 11:08

It's rude to continue doing it but also, the person has the right to not respond to your request.

If I told you this thread was upsetting me and I wanted you to stop posting, would you? Because that's the equivalent of what you're asking and it's unworkable on an anonymous internet forum.

www.mumsnet.com/info/trans-rights-moderation-policy This is MNHQ statement on pronouns.

PattiStanger · 02/10/2018 11:04

Yes, it's rude but you can't stop rudeness either online or in real life, that's just the way of the world

KathDayKnight50 · 02/10/2018 10:55

You may never be able to stop poster @ing you, OP, if mnhq don't agree it's a problem.

So how about changing your response? That puts you back in control over the only person you can have control over - yourself. Life will be easier for you that way.

For instance, think what else you could be doing with your time right now.

Jaxtellerswife · 02/10/2018 10:55

Maybe a little rude but they probably find your request a little ridiculous. Which it is. But you're entitled to not like something of course.
I doubt mnhq would be able to do anything based on someone not liking the facility for. I genuine reason.
You can always ignore people

BitOutOfPractice · 02/10/2018 10:55

If it’s any consolation OP I know just how you feel about being @-ed.

Blackoutblinds · 02/10/2018 10:53

But is it not rude to continue doing it after you’ve been asked to stop?

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PattiStanger · 02/10/2018 10:50

I'm not sure there's anything to explain, you can ask but you can't force anyone not to use a feature of the site that is there for everyone to use

Blackoutblinds · 02/10/2018 10:47

And it’s because I don’t understand that I’m asking hq to explain it.

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PattiStanger · 02/10/2018 10:47

I don't think you can really complain about people using the features of any website.

Yes, it might be rude to ignore your request but ime you can't expect MN to be getting involved in disagreements between individual posters. It's the internet, there will always be people who annoy others

Blackoutblinds · 02/10/2018 10:46

I don’t understand how asking someone not to @ me is different to asking someone to use a correct pronoun.

That person was using @ me to be aggressive and nasty and have a go. What’s the difference? Why is it ok to do that? And not ok to get pronouns wrong? Or not ok to do a personal attack? That person was using @ as a personal go and me because they knew it upset me even after I’d asked them to stop.

I have Aspergers / ASD and I’m struggling to understand the difference of why one is allowed and the others are not.

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Yourenotericlove · 02/10/2018 10:43

How can you not see the difference? And what on earth does your spat about sheets have to do with FWR and transwomen?

Blackoutblinds · 02/10/2018 10:41

Oh I know I’m odd because I don’t like it 😀 especially when someone is going at me and using it to be aggressive. And they definitely are when asked to stop.

But it’s up to hq. I do not understand the difference between asking someone not to use a particular pronoun and asking them not to @ me. And that’s what id like hq to clarify.

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VioletCharlotte · 02/10/2018 10:37

I didn't even realise using @ meant the poster got an email. I don't when people @ me.

I use it when I'm answering someone's post. If I type @ and the first couple of letters, the posters name pops up and I select it. Much easier than switching bold in and trying to remember how to speak their user name.

If someone asked me to stop then I would. But I'd think they were kind of odd though!

DioneTheDiabolist · 02/10/2018 10:34

A poster once asked me never to bold her name because she's ridiculous. Of course I continue to bold her name when addressing her. It's a pretty standard thing on this site.

OP what's the difference between what you are asking and what the idiot poster asked me?

SpoonBlender · 02/10/2018 10:31

@roomba I think the OP is the rarer case - if you're replying directly to someone, particularly with info that'll help them, then atting would usually be welcomed.

Continuing to @ after someone's said don't on the other hand - don't do that, for sure.

Thighofrelief · 02/10/2018 10:30

I had no clue that is why people used @ i thought it was just a different version of bolding a name. Yes it's rude if you have asked someone not to. I saw the thread that annoyed you and thought you were being deliberately jabbed at. Does that person definitely know what happens with the @ function though? I didn't.

Cindersdonegood · 02/10/2018 10:30

I really can't figure out why it's a bad thing. So you don't like your NN having an @ in front of it? You aren't notified via email, your NN is spelled correctly and is in bold so you can easily see it if you are on the thread but it's bad because on certain devices an @ symbol is present??? (No @ sign is present when posting and viewing tagged usernames via iPhone)

Okay. Um..

Somerville · 02/10/2018 10:29

Right. So this is you feeling over sensitive after a random on the internet claimed it’s disgusting that you don’t wash your sheets as often as they do?

Have a cup of tea and shrug it off. Just words on a screen.

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