Heads up: some academic research taking place

I haven't read it all but I can't see why any "permission" would be needed, this is a public forum and whether you "consent" or not on this thread, you have already consented for your comments to be available to anyone with an internet connection, to quote or use in any way they choose.

So saying you "opt out" is completely nonsensical. (I think in fact it is highly likely that the responses this thread has received are actually the real subject of the research and it is about people's (delusional) expectations of some sort of privacy on internet forums).

Thankyou! I spotted that and posted elsewhere earlier.

Er ... @Highlandheath I think you've posted in the wrong place! You need to head over to AIBU

Why is this such a big deal? It's great women's voices are being heard, it's anonymous, why the reticence? Anyway, that was not where I was going and it side tracked me.... My daughter has been dancing since she was 3. She's good, her teacher has said I should put her forward for the LCB this year, a great honour, and she will perform at Sadler's Wells if she is accepted. She is so delighted, I pay and always have for all her classes, kit and exams, she's 13 now, AIBU to feel really shit, because I have to ask her Dad's consent for her to do the take the audition, AIBU to think - FFS, her agency as a young woman who had worked so hard to get here, and my agency as a mother who has facilitated this is utterly fucked because, as we looked at each other this morning and as I told her the news, we both know her father can say no.... as he did to the school trip and to her choice of school when she was accepted against 100 girls, and to her continuing classes in the first place, not because of religion, or money - he pays 1p a month Child Maintenance, but just because he can..... I feel more disempowered than I have ever felt, because he can say "No" and force me to court again, because that's his male whim, and she knows it, and so do I ... What message am I giving her, telling her that?

They are very welcome to use anything I have posted. The Daily Mail just help themselves anyway, anyone can help themselves to our posts.

Jux

Nothing to apologise for, I have enjoyed being on the thread and being able to have a good discussion with so many people.

Boney, I apologise. I realised in the middle of the night that you might only have been pointing out what assumptions could be made by the researchers in the piece of published researched linked to earlier.

One hopes that whatever research goes on, the design is good enough to counteract, or contain, assumptions and bias.

marcopront

I posted the assumptions in the previous post.

I didn't say that I thought that they were, I was pointing out that even on this site, academics are making assumptions about those that post.

What assumptions are these academics making?
If this is about the current research, where has it said they are assuming anything?

Jux

I didn't say that I thought that they were, I was pointing out that even on this site, academics are making assumptions about those that post. The more assumptions made the less accurate the research.

What makes you think they're researching maternal feeling, Boney? So one lot did, but there's no reason to think that any others have. This lot could as easily be researching swearing when posting about toddlers (would be pretty easy to match those 2 variables up). Yes, maybe some people lie about having children, or about being female or about liking golf or about anything at all here, but I suspect most people don't bother much.

The threads which interest you enough to make you post will be different from the threads which interest someone else enough to post. I may have posted on toddler threads in the past, or I may remember a cute story from dd's past which I decide to share on a toddler thread, but it'll be pretty clear that she is no longer a toddler. Even if it isn't clear, the story will be as true as it ever was, and I might - in recalling it - feel like calling her a bloody child, or I might not.

I think there are plenty of threads around this site where those things are self-evident or irrelevant. There'll be loads of people looking at and analysing them. Including, quite possibly, this lot.

@AnneOfCleavage you do realise that there's no such thing as privacy on Mumsnet, don't you?

No thanks, please don't use any of my posts. I like the privacy and anonymity of this site and for that reason I am out.

Privacy? What privacy?
Everything you post on here can be seen and copied by the whole world. And you can never delete it from the web, even if MNHQ deletes a thread or your whole account. Someone somewhere will have copied it for their own purposes, and can post it anywhere if they wish.

Jux

When academics are researching "maternal feeling" on an anonymous website where there is no way of knowing if the people posting are mothers, parents or even female. It begs the question is it worthwhile research.

Ignorance is bliss, they say.

Lweji
For those who have opted out of this one, which is fair enough, just be clear that countless others will still be analysing your posts.

Just to be clear, I won't care because I won't know.

I think this thread is very enlightening as to people's mind processes.

No wonder there are so many pointless arguments on this site.

No thanks, please don't use any of my posts. I like the privacy and anonymity of this site and for that reason I am out.

For those who have opted out of this one, which is fair enough, just be clear that countless others will still be analysing your posts.

It's like trying to get water out of the Titanic with a bucket.

This is a public forum. They are only using public information. I am sure that many different educational, marketing companies, as well as individual students have used mumsnet as a form of data for research before it's just this time the uni decided to speak to mumsnet to say they were going to do it. I assume to be extra considerate and assure mumsnet that they will not be using names etc.

You are posting in the public domain anyone can see it. As a university I am sure any data they take from this study will be used in a responsible way and hopefully go on to help us all as a wider community.

If it is another way this forum can help others I think it's a good thing.

RubbishRobotFromTheDawnOfTime
I think people who are opting out don't understand what the situation is.

The situation is that it has been offered in this case that we can opt out (some of us have taken it).

Is that so hard to understand?

They don't have to ask you. They're doing it out of politeness.

How will the researchers see posts across name changes? Will they be able to see that ‘poster 1’ has a set of posts across multiple name changes?

They won't see that.
They will see exactly what you and I see. Just the posts as they appear.

It has been said if you want to opt out you have to say that for every user name.

Sorry if you’ve already answered this!

How will the researchers see posts across name changes? Will they be able to see that ‘poster 1’ has a set of posts across multiple name changes?

Because that could be very identifying

Count me out
Ta