Ban posters, leave threads

Has there been a response to this thread elsewhere? It's been up for almost a week with no reply from MNHQ.

I absolutely agree with Datun et al. Please let the threads remain visible but lock them. MNHQ you are being played like the proverbial fiddle.

Freedom of speech is what Justine promised but is not being delivered. Why are threads being deleted? As others have said, it's not those being goaded who are objecting!

I agree. In the past I have been part of some heated discussions and I have been reported and I have even asked for some of my comments to be deleted, fair enough. But I have also seen and been part of some really good indeth debate, with a few heated comments it's hard to avoid, but the majority of posters actually replying thoughtfully... Its such a shame and fairly frustrating to then have the thread completely disappear (as I'm replying!) or to log on some time later to catch up to find it deleted? It's a shame really.

Absolutely. Including vile PMs.

"This is a deliberate strategy to probe individual weaknesses and elicit a reaction to get regulars banned. If you look back through the threads you can see it - a concept will be floated, they note who reacts and then they target them by replying directly to them and pressing the point.
It’s very unpleasant to see"

THIS!

Spot on beyond

Like that?

Message deleted by Mumsnet because Beyond is being a moody dick tonight.

I think i may have just talked myself out of a job with MNHQ

I woukd make a dreadful mod

Id be all 'fuckem if they cant play nice'

And 'christ that ones a twat...haven't broken guidelines but im gonna delete them anyway'

And my deletion messages would be ' deleted for being stupid'

Forgot that one

Its trolling 101 for moderated forums.

Full thread deletion policies can make ultimately life more difficult for mods where you have determined or simply persistent trolls.

battleground, hotbed of hate? 😂 I'd better calm down.

If very good points have been made in a thread it's better to get the whole thread deleted by turning it into a battleground. Otherwise those who believe that MN is a hotbed of hate might start changing their minds.

Oooh nice c8

Forgot that one

And

C) Deny they ever said it because a pattern of behaviour is hidden from public view. Which makes it easier to rinse and repeat with faux innocence.

I see your point soup

But removing it means that the goady fucker can say

A) i got that removed, i can stop them from talking

Or B) (and this is the kne that is happening on here) MNHQ have to delete entire threads because of the transphobia. A reasonable question was asked and the answers were so transphobic the whole thread had to go

Isn’t there the possibility that leaving them up makes them a “badge of honour” for the goady fucker who started them though? They actually have a thread of visible goadiness to point at and say “I did that!”

Interesting to see who would rather those threads be deleted!

Ive just implied this on the ither thread

Interesting to see who would rather those threads be deleted!

If your post is goady or breaches the rules - you don’t get to leave your post there for all eternity

But it’s the people being goaded who are asking for the threads to stay. We’re not so fragile that we can’t take a few nasty comments. Of course if an individual post breaches guidelines then that should be deleted, but when a whole thread goes, it’s throwing out the baby with the bathwater. Lots of eloquent reasoned posts and some eye opening stuff, all lost because of reports from whichever side, it’s a shame.

Of course where someone has started a thread which is clearly trolling, fiction being presented as fact, encouraging posters to share personal details and inappropriate content, then deleting can be a good idea.

But when it’s just a question, which it then transpires has been asked to elicit certain responses, it should stand as the responses are genuine.

It would be good to leave threads. It would show the most trolled sections of MN. Might be a close one between AIBU and FWR.