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Could you explain the deletions for calling out racism please?

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paxillin · 10/05/2018 00:09

Some, but not all perhaps harshly worded, but how else do you say racism is shit? I am talking about the deletions on the thread about the golliwog mugs.

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immortalmarble · 10/05/2018 21:24

Janey, an opinion about someone who is mixed race which takes the fact that they are mixed race and attempts to turn that fact into a point of some nature is as ludicrous as it is prejudiced.

If you mean (as I assume you do) that having an opinion about MM isn’t in itself racist, I agree, except that the opinions are uncomfortable reading insomuch as they attempt to gripe around for a reason they dislike her and unfortunately as much as people try to swim away from the current of racism, their point always drags them back there.

coffeecupofmilk · 10/05/2018 21:13

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user789653241 · 10/05/2018 21:10

It's not* my intention!

JaneyEJones · 10/05/2018 21:08

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user789653241 · 10/05/2018 21:08

Janey, I don't find every negative comment about foerigner as racist at all. I have many friends who have no problem me being foreign, and know some people who wouldn't come near me because I'm foreign.
I have so many people who help me on MN, who may know I am foreign and who doesn't.
I think I derailed this thread from racism.It's not my intention. I just wanted to say, that I really doubt some people who shout they understand racism doesn't really, they think they are, but they don't really unless they are the receiving end. Someone said I was a disablest, because I have dodgy view about autism, yeah right, I have a child with suspected asd(undiagnosed), so I really should have dodgy view Grin, they are able enough to follow me into MN, must be able to AS!

immortalmarble · 10/05/2018 21:03

That’s not what I said Janey

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paxillin · 10/05/2018 20:50

I'm just reading the thread you linked, @C8H10N4O2. I think it is unfixable, there are still many posters going on about the disability as a ruse to get a seat.

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JaneyEJones · 10/05/2018 20:42

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user789653241 · 10/05/2018 20:35

Tbh, I felt quite privileged to be called a fake foreigner by someone who have 20 years experience as language expert. My Written English must be pretty good.

JaneyEJones · 10/05/2018 20:25

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user789653241 · 10/05/2018 20:14

@Cobrider, no I don't think it's nothing to do with my nationality Grin, but to do with my personality, but thanks.

JaneyEJones · 10/05/2018 20:12

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paxillin · 10/05/2018 20:04

Bullying and racism frowned upon by the op only here though apparently.

Indeed. On here and anywhere else.

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JaneyEJones · 10/05/2018 19:45

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Cobrider · 10/05/2018 19:38

irvineoneohone yes it’s ironic that you were bullied off another site and called all sorts of names because of your nationality (by someone on this thread).Completely hypocritical.
I hope you are okay, I feel bad for not defending you, it was all very ugly.

user789653241 · 10/05/2018 19:34

It is just one example. there are so many racism or other form of discriminations. But sometimes I find people who are truthful to their feelings more genuine than someone who think/say they are not, but they really are deep down.

immortalmarble · 10/05/2018 19:27

If someone has been rude to you because of your cultural heritage then that’s awful.

But that doesn’t detract from the horrible comments on a thread about golliwogs.

user789653241 · 10/05/2018 19:24

*for

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paxillin · 10/05/2018 19:23

Yes, agree on the ageism. Current example on AIBU.

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user789653241 · 10/05/2018 19:23

Why having an opinion about "mixed race people" be a racist? My ds is a mixed race child. I am a foreigner who doesn't want to give up my nationality to become British. Some of the things people who claims to be non racist sometimes doesn't really make sense to me at all. They say they aren't racist, but ridicule foreign people foe their difference. For me, it's nothing about what they say, but about how they treat us in everyday life, that makes them non racist, imo.

MillicentF · 10/05/2018 19:17

And don’t get me started on ageism. That regularly goes unchallenged.

immortalmarble · 10/05/2018 18:58

Having an opinion on “mixed race people” full stop is rather racist in my opinion.

It turns “them” into a classification of people or their own rather than individuals.

JaneyEJones · 10/05/2018 18:29

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user789653241 · 10/05/2018 18:09

Not sure some people talking about racism actually really understand what it is though. I was called fake foreigner by someone due to my use of written English. Makes me very sceptical if they really understand what we foreigners face everyday.

yawning801 · 10/05/2018 16:54

So "fuck off" is not acceptable, but "off you fuck" is? I started a thread a few months ago and got told that by multiple posters, amongst other "personal attacks". Not one deletion. Explanation please?