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Jeremy Corbyn - webchat to discuss self-identification of sex

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Popchyk · 28/01/2018 11:32

On the Andrew Marr Show today, Jeremy Corbyn indicated that the Labour Party is in favour of a policy of people being able to self-identify as the opposite sex.

Could we get Jeremy Corbyn on Mumsnet to do a webchat in order to discuss the implications around this?

If he is unavailable, could we have another senior Labour figure?

Thank you

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DamnDeDoubtanceIsSpartacus · 12/02/2018 08:25

also what are the Labour party going to do to challenge harmful sex stereotypes?

ApacheEchidna · 12/02/2018 08:14

Oh I do hope the Web chat is agreed.

One of the questions needs to be something like: "under the proposed Self ID system, what protection will there be for women on the ASD spectrum? Such women frequently (especially if their ASD is undiagnosed) mistake their alienation from female gender stereotypes for gender dysphoria. With no checks or assessments such women are likely to undergo transition and find their sense of alienation is not relieved, and will then be at even greater risk of self harm and other mental health issues. How can a self ID system help people who are genuinely mistaken in this way?"

DamnDeDoubtanceIsSpartacus · 12/02/2018 08:05

I've left the labour party over this issue. Politicians need to stop dodging this issue and answer the questions, it's what they are elected to do.

Datun · 12/02/2018 08:01

I wonder if they know there has been thread after thread here of women saying they are cancelling their memberships and subscriptions? And generally, for every poster there are dozens, if not hundreds, of lurkers.

EmpressOfJurisfiction · 12/02/2018 07:57

And we're the women whose votes they're losing. I'm not a party member but I've been voting Labour since I turned 18 in the 1990s. I don't dare right now.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 12/02/2018 07:49

They're fools if they don't grasp that they are losing women's votes at the moment.

Jeremy Corbyn - webchat to discuss self-identification of sex
Fekko · 12/02/2018 07:32

Tell them it’s a Glastonbury off shoot or college website.

PositivelyPERF · 12/02/2018 01:33

They’ll never agree to it, because they know they are in the wrong but will want to coax the younger votes. If they give honest answers or can’t give coherent answers, to questions put forward by mumsneters, they will lose those voters. Or they will cherry pick the questions from the inevitable influx of TRAs and their handmaidens.

WichBitchHarpyTerfThatsMe · 12/02/2018 01:23

Any update on this MNHQ?

SmurfOrTerf · 05/02/2018 17:52

Well he never made contact with Linda Bellows so why would he come. Does he actually know that women have the vote ?

hipsterfun · 05/02/2018 17:19

One might wonder if the LP, having painted themselves into a corner on self-ID, have neither the wisdom nor the courage to be honest about it and take a different course.

Jozxyqk · 05/02/2018 17:10

Just seen this. If JC or another senior LP figure cannot attend, it will speak volumes.

Popchyk · 05/02/2018 16:51

Thanks for letting us know, Lorna.

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Fekko · 05/02/2018 16:48

Don’t hold your breath...

LornaMumsnet · 05/02/2018 16:47

Helloooo,

A bit of a non-update but we just wanted to let everyone on this thread know that we have asked them and we've not yet heard back. We'll give it a nudge in a few days time.

OlennasWimple · 05/02/2018 15:44

I don't think JC will do this, and I don't think any senior Labour party member will do it either

hipsterfun · 05/02/2018 10:48

Come on, MNHQ.

Did you ask or not?

If you did ask, what was the response?

PencilsInSpace · 05/02/2018 10:00

I've only just seen this. Yes please!

Popchyk · 05/02/2018 09:24

Any update, MNHQ?

It has been a week. Could you ask them again?

If the response from the Labour Party is no, could you please ask them who exactly they are consulting with if they are not consulting the biggest female forum in the UK? Could they please identify those groups whose views they actually are considering?

The Labour Party intends to clarify policy in March therefore time is critical on this.

Ta much.

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SameTerfDifferentUserName · 04/02/2018 16:01

Do I just assume at this stage that Jezza and the brocialists are happy without the votes of me, my family and everybody else I know? A lot would've previously voted labour but sadly that party appears to no longer exist.

TheButterflyOfTheStorms · 03/02/2018 14:22

I know that's not MNHQs fault.

Datun · 02/02/2018 21:54

Have we asked him yet? What did he say?

Yes. I want the actual words.

SameTerfDifferentUserName · 02/02/2018 15:45

Have we asked him yet? What did he say?

SameTerfDifferentUserName · 02/02/2018 07:51

Just bumping to say I agree with the locked thread/prepared questions.

OnTheList · 01/02/2018 20:36

If he wants to take a position on this he needs to be able to justify it to the women it has implications for.

Indeed. I cannot see him doing it. nor any other MP.

I would also request this is a single issue chat. So that he cannot dodge the questions like last time. Last time he was on he chose the fluffy stuff and others he had obviously prepared answers in advance for, and ignored most of the questions. Turned up late, then left early too IIRC.