Deletions due to being discussed elsewhere

Downvoted to oblivion on a sub called Trolls for disagreeing with an actual troll Dixie?

That's fabulous. :o

Cote, do you post there? If so (a) why on earth would you want to be associated with that lot and (b) anyone who disagrees with the most prolific poster (and all her names) disappears. Have you not noticed? How odd.

I'd forgotten about downvoting meaning having to wait to post which is yet another way to "silence" dissent - again not quite as free-speech inclusive as is claimed.

You seem to be misreading Lorna's explanation as well. Is that deliberate? She explained what she meant by "wider audience" - are you calling her a liar?

Interesting paxillin. I guess the Wail brings traffic.

But they don't disappear. They are hidden, you can unhide them. So there is a way to know how many are hidden, display and count.

Bloomed from what I have seen recently anyone who is concerned/upset about their privacy for whatever reason can contact HQ and ask them to take the thread down and they usually do.

TBH I really don't have a problem with that.

No, Bloomed, doesn't sound like it does. Plus Daily Wail in particular just sticks all the posts onto their webpage, they don't need the thread to keep it running.

Does this mean that threads discussed in the press will be automatically deleted from now on?

""wider audience" Lorna mentioned meant more places rather than specifically greater numbers."

Do we really need to go into the definition of "wider audience"?

Of course it means larger numbers of eyeballs on the thread.

I agree with you that discussing an MN thread doesn't mean a wider audience, since the same people are on here as well. Which I already said in reply to Lorna.

"Click the minus sign beside every post (takes 30 seconds). Repeat with each of your five different names, get your friend and her three different names to do the same, and bingo, all dissent disappears."

Nice story. Not true, though.

The only posts that go under -5 or so are the truly unpopular ones, and there are very few of those.

Those of you complaining about cliques on MN & Reddit sub - I wish you were here before the Moldies scandal.

Now that was one cliquey place. The minute you got into a debate with one of them on a thread, they would PM (call?) each other and ALL of them would descend on you like a pack of vultures.

Rufus, not only can you up and down vote, but if lots of people downvote someone their posts disappear.

Reddit is really easy to manipulate. Click on the name of a person you don't like. All their posts come up as a list (useful for trollspotting too) Click the minus sign beside every post (takes 30 seconds). Repeat with each of your five different names, get your friend and her three different names to do the same, and bingo, all dissent disappears. Which rather makes a mockery of the claims of "freedom of speech, nothing is deleted here"

For those who think the site was set up for spotting trolls, remember they are happy to have the person with the (at least) five different accounts as one of their most prolific members. It's a bit pathetic. At least on mn regular well-known posters who were also long-term trolls had to put a bit of time and effort in.

I'm LaQueen and so's my wife!

We are all LaQueen

Yep, Rufus. And downvoted posts are hidden. If you get downvoted enough, your posts are automatically restricted, and you will only be able to post every x minutes, which rather reduces your ability to participate in the conversation.

It's a great way of getting rid of actual spam, but one could easily buse it to silence unpopular opinions, like, "OP, that ain't a troll" and "Hang on a minute, I was on that thread too before the deletion and the MN OP did not say that".

They can't make up their minds whether I'm LaQueen, or the op of the other thread is LaQueen. I wonder if they think the op of this thread is LaQueen as well. Molly, are you LaQueen? Or are you me, maybe? Which would make you LaQueen. Is there anyone else who agrees with me? If so, you are LaQueen's sockie.

Dixie, I love your picture

Battleax, it occurs to me that it is in the interests of the members of a clique to deny the very existence of said clique.

So you can down vote or up vote posts like on a newspaper website

Oh i dont think i would like that

I would be paranoid about getting voted for

Or not

I thought the "wider audience" Lorna mentioned meant more places rather than specifically greater numbers. With the amount of audience crossover, numbers wouldn't be much higher.

the downvoting of any post that doesn't meet with the approval of the main members

I got downvoted for asking why on earth I would lie about what sort of dog I have after someone there, who claimed to have "the memory of an elephant", said I had a designer crossbreed. Utterly bonkers.

I used to look as a Troll Check when I had suspicions about threads here but don't bother any more.

So your objection Quentin is that someone over there called you "Aunt" (intriguing) and it's got people being friendly like anywhere else?

I'm going to have to go back now to see what Aunt is all about

I'm rather hoping that the lesson learned from this situation is that posting very identifying details about your life, work, where you live etc. etc. is A Very Bad Idea.

If you work in a public sector job you should bloody well know to keep schtum about identifying details.

If you don't already know that then you really aren't competent to be working in certain environments.

Being cliquey isn't the same as being secret though.

MN is definitely cliquey.

Of course there are cliques - It happens naturally on these sort of things. It's naive to think it doesn't.

Well in that sense MN is "super cliquey" too, isn't it?

I've been over there. I don't know any of them from Adam.

Given how many Moldie-style secret Facebook groups of bitching MNers there are, it seems strange to describe a wide open web page as "super cliquey".

I think there is the clique- forming and the non- clique forming sort online and in RL. The clique- forming sort spot cliques everywhere, MN, work, school gate, tennis club. The non- clique forming sort doesn't form or spot them.