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Deletions due to being discussed elsewhere

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Coconutspongexo · 15/11/2017 08:38

Hi

I was wondering if this is going to be the case for all posts now? Can they be deleted just because they’re discussed elsewhere?

It’s a public forum of course all posts might be discussed elsewhere, that’s the risk you take when you post online.

Why doesn’t this happen when people’s threads end up on Facebook/twitter pages dedicated to slating MN users? Not to mention the scummy journos who lift entire threads on here but MNHQ are happy to keep them?

I thought you didn’t delete threads unless against guidelines etc? Is this going to be a new guideline? Must not be discussed on certain forums?

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Battleax · 16/11/2017 00:25

Battleax, not that scenario of course, but made up "memories" yes. With lots of gullible posters saying "oh wow, did she really say that? I always knew there was something odd about her".

I'm not really recognising the allusion at all, TBH. Give me another clue. If it was about a troll that's one thing, but, no I'm a bit lost...

Have you been there all along? You appear to have missed bits.

I've had a pretty comprehensive poke around by now, I'd have thought. It became my insomnia reading for a while:

FarseAboutAce · 16/11/2017 00:23

I'm not on a FB group. I don't like the attempts by some jumped up twat (with multiple accounts on mn and elsewhere) to make a name for herself on another site by fooling everyone with false allegations about loads of mumsnetters. I suppose yesterday was the final straw - so many made up facts, so much pretence at memory (while obviously ASing), so much me-me-me while trying to convince everyone it was someone else's fault.

MN has lots of things wrong with it, but allowing the deliberate upset of a poster having a pretty shitty time irl isn't usually something they allow.

Cote, I didn't either (prolific poster bit) until I looked yesterday and had a "bingo" moment, followed by the realisation of how easy it is to troll-spot look at poster's history. It's very revealing, you should try it Grin

Though sadly I have noticed an attempt to delete/deregister a couple of the accounts.

Battleax · 16/11/2017 00:22

Hate to point out the obvious, but just because a feature is there, that doesn’t mean it has to be used...

Well yes that is what it means if it's an automatic feature.

CoteDAzur · 16/11/2017 00:20

“If someone with five (or more) accounts want to argue with someone with one account, they simply downvote them so they can't post for a while”

Not true. You have to wait between posts if your total karma is negative, not just on any one thread. So nobody with 5 accounts (or 10) can do that to you, and you will not have to worry about it unless you are a wanker on every thread you post.

You can have 5 accounts on here, too, you know. TiggyD was on the Reddit sub the other day telling everyone how he is banned on MN but still posts under a different name.

DixieNormas · 16/11/2017 00:18

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MollyBear · 16/11/2017 00:16

Hate to point out the obvious, but just because a feature is there, that doesn’t mean it has to be used...

If the posters on the MN subreddit actually cared about free speech etc etc, then maybe they could restrain themselves from downvoting any dissenting opinion?

Just a thought.

DixieNormas · 16/11/2017 00:16

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FarseAboutAce · 16/11/2017 00:15

Battleax, not that scenario of course, but made up "memories" yes. With lots of gullible posters saying "oh wow, did she really say that? I always knew there was something odd about her".

Have you been there all along? You appear to have missed bits.

DixieNormas · 16/11/2017 00:14

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CoteDAzur · 16/11/2017 00:14

“That lot” are just MNers so no, I don’t have any problem associating with them.

Battleax · 16/11/2017 00:12

unhidden but if (as they insist) the raison d'être of the site is free speech, everyone is welcome, no deletions etc, why are they hidden in the first place

Look you know people in subReddits don't control the way the whole of Reddit works, don't you?

If you rush off to a super secret Facebook group in a minute (not that I think you would) you won't be able to change the basic features of Facebook by belonging to or even modding a Facebook group. You know that, don't you?

CoteDAzur · 16/11/2017 00:12

Farce - I will neither confirm nor deny that I might be posting or just lurking on the Reddit sub. In either case obviously not as often as you, since I don’t know a “most prolific poster” Grin

FarseAboutAce · 16/11/2017 00:09

Of course the posts can be unhidden but if (as they insist) the raison d'être of the site is free speech, everyone is welcome, no deletions etc, why are they hidden in the first place (especially by the multiple account posters).

Downvoting doesn't just hide posts, it makes it impossible for posters to debate. If someone with five (or more) accounts want to argue with someone with one account, they simply downvote them so they can't post for a while. That way the first poster can post multiple times, upvote themselves and make the argument appear skewed.

Battleax · 16/11/2017 00:09

Other places, they just make up shite. Along the lines of "Did you see X admit that she beats her children every night and lock them in a broom cupboard. I remember (never admit to AS) she's a police officer, I'm going to contact her station and tell them. Of course, I can't prove this, the thread was 7 years ago and in chat, so it's gone now, but I have the memory of an elephant I wasn't frantically ASing just now so my word is fact" and I'll upvote it with all my other accounts so you'll believe me.

WTF? Confused

Is this a dream you had?

Weebo · 16/11/2017 00:07

It takes less than five seconds to switch between accounts.

If you have lots it's probably easy to forget to switch when you are deep into trolling which is what happened yesterday.

paxillin · 16/11/2017 00:02

You can make shit up on MN, too, like you just did.

DixieNormas · 16/11/2017 00:01

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MollyBear · 16/11/2017 00:01

No, no, Farse. Cote explained that (although sadly without pictures Smile)

The wider audience thing simply must have meant more numbers, despite the redditors either all being MNers themselves, or reading MN anyway. It wasn’t just the fact it was shared elsewhere, it was that there were more people, who are actually the same people, reading it. See?

(And apart from the more-people-who-are-the-same-people bit, Lorna did also clarify that actually it was privacy concerns which led to the deletion, rather than numbers, umm wider audiences, oh whatever)

FarseAboutAce · 15/11/2017 23:57

I never thought I'd say this, but there are worse things than having your thread picked up by the mail. At least the DM actually quote from the thread. They are cunts, but they cut and paste accurately.

Other places, they just make up shite. Along the lines of "Did you see X admit that she beats her children every night and lock them in a broom cupboard. I remember (never admit to AS) she's a police officer, I'm going to contact her station and tell them. Of course, I can't prove this, the thread was 7 years ago and in chat, so it's gone now, but I have the memory of an elephant I wasn't frantically ASing just now so my word is fact" and I'll upvote it with all my other accounts so you'll believe me.

So teenage. So last year.

Apologies to sensible teenagers Grin

MollyBear · 15/11/2017 23:52

Maybe I am you, Farse. I’m sure I’m not LaQueen, though. So maybe I’m not you after all.

Cote - what makes you think posters here weren’t around before Moldies? Smile I can spot at least 4 in this thread who were, and that’s without trying too hard Smile

It would, of course, be easy to ensure a post got to -5 if you had 5 different usernames/accounts on the go (although if it truly is 1 per device, due to inability to log in/log out, then that’s a lot of devices to be juggling Grin)

DixieNormas · 15/11/2017 23:52

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Weebo · 15/11/2017 23:51

How so?

DixieNormas · 15/11/2017 23:51

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Battleax · 15/11/2017 23:50

That's fabulous. grin

Shame it's not actually true.

Battleax · 15/11/2017 23:49

You can make them reappear with one button Dix. Reddit is quite hard to learn at first.