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AIBU or is the 'we depend on advertising to keep the lights on' a ^little^ annoying?

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hiddley · 23/10/2017 23:44

From a multi million pound enterprise? Preying on sometimes vulnerable women? So that you can subject them to more advertising?

You're not a charity. We are not here in sympathy with you. We are here because you provide a forum you can make money from.

How can you compare 'keeping the lights on' in a multi-million pound business to a vulnerable poster who actually can't afford electricity?

Have you completely lost your soul? Because you'll lose all your minions soon if you don't change your tune.

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LurkingHusband · 26/10/2017 13:39

Ads are also not the only revenue stream for this type of site, there are many others and I'd assume a combined model is in place.

Ideally some form of targeted advertising, possibly based on users posting profiles ?

If you fed MN through a decent AI engine, you could probably create quite a few interesting data sets, as well as link posters with external identities.

LurkingHusband · 26/10/2017 13:36

Who the hell are they employing there in MN towers? Eegits?

Er, yes.

Do you remember the disruption a few weeks back when watched threads and "threads I'm on" when belly up ?

No rollback plan, no A/B testing ... OK if you're running a noddy website with a few hundred users (actually it's not OK, but ...) a little less impressive when you are serving tens of thousands of users.

C8H10N4O2 · 26/10/2017 12:51

I agree that Mumsnet v Reddit is not a great comparison due to differences in scale. I also remember Reddit as it went through each of its own scaling problems - it started out much like this one did.

Reddit became popular on the back of a vast number of hate filled racist anti-semitic men. Mumsnet has a different role to play.

No it didn't become popular on the back of the Alt-right. The Alt-right tried to colonise it because it was popular - its an important difference because its a good example of the problems sites face as they grow and become more popular. Trolls/others are attracted to growing, popular sites, especially where they have a focus on a target group (eg women).

I am happy with the ads. I dont expect things for free because I am not entitled.

Maybe the ads are not consuming half your month data allowance on a mobile device? Maybe its not rendered unusable by breaking the accessibility software you use? Maybe you don't get the ridiculous delays some people are? Don't assume that your experience matches that of other users.

You can implement ads without making a site unusable or spending billions. Its down to architecture, design and code management.

Ads are also not the only revenue stream for this type of site, there are many others and I'd assume a combined model is in place.

Atenco · 26/10/2017 05:03

I would be quite happy to leave the ads if the site still worked with them. But it doesn't, so either I stop using mumsnet altogether or I continue as a free-rider (whatever that means)

hiddley · 25/10/2017 23:14

Who the hell are they employing there in MN towers? Eegits?

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hiddley · 25/10/2017 23:09

Well John Lewis is going mental on me today. As a result, I will probably never set foot in their store.
That and a freaky looking doll, with the token boy holding the black doll. Surrounded by pink.

I suspect I am not the target market for most of these ads.

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Rufustherenegadereindeer1 · 25/10/2017 22:55

I dont expect things for free because I am not entitled.

I expect a site to work, i do not believe i am entitled if i want to post but am unable to as its taking ages to load

I had to install adblocker as without it the site was unusable

Oishinbo · 25/10/2017 22:54

I am happy with the ads. I dont expect things for free because I am not entitled.
entitled to use an adblocker, really?

scottishdiem · 25/10/2017 22:51

Reddit is the 9th most visited site in the world. Mumsnet is not even in the UK top fifty.

Reddit is valued at 1.8 billion dollars. Mumsnet less.....

Reddit raised 200 million dollars in investment funding. Mumsnet has adverts and sponsors.

Reddit became popular on the back of a vast number of hate filled racist anti-semitic men. Mumsnet has a different role to play.

The two dont compare really but Reddit is still available to you.

I am happy with the ads. I dont expect things for free because I am not entitled.

CoteDAzur · 25/10/2017 09:24

Reddit manages to “keep the lights on” with just a few small ads that don’t move, jiggle, or cover half the screen.

brasty · 25/10/2017 09:12

Yes no one is expecting the site to be free of ads. They simply want the site to still be usable and fun to use.
MNHQ need to look at how users use the site - they will have analytics of this. If a site has a long journalistic article, I will put up with an intrusive advert at the beginning. Because you see it once, and then you read an article for 30 mins. On MN I bounce around different threads, and even if I am reading the same thread, I have to refresh it to read the latest contribution. Every single time I get an intrusive banner advert hanging around.

Laiste · 25/10/2017 08:38

It's an interesting read over there. Some people are struggling to use the site now due to the design or the ads, the loading screens of the ads, the speed of the load and the space they are taking up at the top now.

Laiste · 25/10/2017 08:35

No one is asking for it to be totally free of ads though Lem.

LEMtheoriginal · 25/10/2017 08:09

The ads are irritating at times but it is ur to expect mnet to be totally free especially now it's so huge

Laiste · 25/10/2017 07:58

Bumping so today's posters can find the site stuff thread.

Rufustherenegadereindeer1 · 24/10/2017 20:06

Another one who only installed an adblocker because without it mumsnet was completely and utterly unusable

AaaaaaaarrghmyGMumsnet · 24/10/2017 20:05

Bah! So sorry, fixed now. Thanks EvilRinguBitch Grin

EvilRinguBitch · 24/10/2017 19:48

Do you want to have another go at that link Amy? Grin

TheDevilMadeMeDoIt · 24/10/2017 17:05

I installed an ad blocker when they had only a small ad on the right hand side - but it was animated and it kept freezing the entire screen.

Keep it to small ads which don't interfere with the site loading or freezing, and I will happily remove it.

AaaaaaaarrghmyGMumsnet · 24/10/2017 17:03

Hi everyone, there's a couple of threads running about this at the moment over in Site Stuff. Justine has posted over here, please do head over and have a read.

DobbyTheFreeElf · 24/10/2017 15:50

Yes its annoying I wish they would get rid of it, and no I will not get rid of the ad-blocker. I had to get the ad-blocker because of the annoying ads that scrolled along the sides and made the site unusable.

KrytensNanobots · 24/10/2017 15:35

I get that you have to have adverts as you're a business, but can you PLEAAAASE make its stop dropping down over the entire screen every time I refresh or change pages??? It started yesterday and it's driving me mad!!
It obscures entire threads for ages before shrinking back.

LurkingHusband · 24/10/2017 11:50

Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought it was said that MN were looking for new financial backers or something? If so, maybe they're keen to increase ad revenue so the bottom line looks better?

The flip side being any backers would get their hands on all the MN user data ... you might see targeted ads based on your postings.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 24/10/2017 11:38

It is annoying but it's less annoying than the bloody adverts

Exactly ... and isn't it ironic that the message has appeared right at the time when adverts are starting to eat the site? Hmm

Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought it was said that MN were looking for new financial backers or something? If so, maybe they're keen to increase ad revenue so the bottom line looks better?

LanaKanesLeftNippleTassle · 24/10/2017 11:33

I recommend Ghostery/Windscribe/Firefox btw incase anyone likes to pick and choose what data and ads they deal with!

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