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I'm baffled as to how MN can not know what it's looking like for us on screen. (asking for screen shots ect.) Is there no one in the office who can just ... y'know ... log on MN on their phone or lap top and see it?

I'm the least techy person in the world and shy away from even asking techy questions as i don't even know how to frame the question ! but why can't they just turn off/reverse what ever they turned on/installed on Monday in the meantime and decide what to do instead?

Is anything going to be done about this? Ads shouldn't be covering up content on reputable sites. That's what happens on click bait sites. MN has lurched downmarket.

If they are essential to the survival of MN then they should appear once, when we log in. Then bugger off for the duration. Or have a cross so we can close the annoying things.

MN used to be the nest of vipers known for its intelligent debate. MN woman at the elections.

The keep the lights on message is twee and patronising and really not in keeping with the spirit of what the site used to be, in my opinion. I’d have expected it on nethuns. Not here.

Leaving aside the comparisons that don't really work because they are not chat sites, what the likes of The Guardian etc do is nothing like what MN has started to do. You can click on their reminders and they disappear.

The whitelist notification banner is designed to be almost punitive on here. It's not a reminder, it's actively preventing users with adblockers from using the site.

I’ve installed an adblocker today because

I can’t read the site on my mobile because of the ads

I was running out of data and paying for extra. Here’s hoping it sorts that issue.

Justine I had no issue with a few ads. I get that is how you make your money. But it has got to the point now that the site is unusable.

I wouldn’t pay for the site for the simple reason that I don’t trust that my bank details wouldn’t be hacked from here.

of course I was kidding! but i am not joking about my friends who have all basically decamped to various bits of reddit, and I do think that MN is in danger of losing decent contributors and replacing them with trolls basically.

We do REDDIT now
MN is OVER.

Are you being jokey?

If not staaaap with that. Please?

You'll notice that pretty much all ad funded sites now have these same ad formats - The Guardian, Telegraph, Daily Mirror - we're pretty late to the game to be honest
and?
these are newspapers where journalists are paid to create the content, this is a forum, where the members (aka freeriding freeloaders) create the content for free, why try to make an argument by analogy when your analogy doesn't stand up at all?

Make a comparison with other forums, not the guardian/telegraph etc fgs

OMG, I've just seen the 'we rely on advertising to keep the lights on' thing.

wtf???
hahahaha
Poor impoverished Justine darning her socks by the light of a candle because people use adblockers

Mapie I'm with you. £1200+. That would want to iron my fucking clothes, fold them and put them away!

Justine, it's interesting that you are comparing MN to the Mirror. I don't click on the mirror to read anything for the simple reason that it takes forever to load so it is pointless.

Mn is an interactive site. It's not a newspaper. It's a discussion forum. I find it interesting that you are comparing this site to newspaper sites rather than to other discussion forums. Interesting indeed. If there is nothing left to read, then where do you go?

Don't underestimate the demographic you're dealing with. Don't underestimate our intelligence or our lack of loyalty to your brand.

Listen to the people who post on this site. For once.

I can appreciate, though, that the repetitive message might become a bit annoying so we'll look at limiting it's use.

You get the boiled sweet prize for understatement, MNHQ.

I don't even have adblocker installed.

Fwiw, the ads I see at the moment are for products I can't buy (and probably wouldn't even if I could, just to be contrary) here in the US.

My hatred for Miele washing machines is growing by the minute.

I think some of the more recent comments here are over the top.

MN is making a big mistake in force feeding its users with excessive advertising. Now that they know how bad it is, let's give them a chance to pull it back. Being rude won't help them to solve it.

But MN, please, please change that 'lights out' message. We know that you are in no danger of having the power cut off.

Has anybody looked at it from a disability point of view. MN was more autism friendly as it was less busy.

these bloody ads are not autism friendly. sensory overload making. not great. can you make sure they are not on the SNeeds boards that have a higher prevalence of disabled users.

Justine, hopefully you will use the revenue generated to buy:

1. a proper tech team
2. some PR because at the moment, you're ruining your own empire

All my friends are fed up with the content harvesting, the trolls, the perverts and the high-handed school prefect nonsense that you indulge in. When your content is generated "by Huns for huns", then you'll realise it's a pile of sparkly worthless fluff and you'll be the new FriendsReunited

We do REDDIT now
MN is OVER.

As I said on another thread, I'm seeing this keep the lights on message, on a device and browser that do not have an adblocker installed. Then the screen lurches and an ad appears that takes up about half of the available space.

I missed that. I don't have adblocker on either, but considering it. And why should you click on the ads? Ad sales are made based on a small percentage of people who see them actually being interested in them. Can't remember the average sale rate for the industry I work in, but I know it is small. Because most people hate adverts on the internet.

brasty - I don't even have ad blocker on, I just dont' click on the ads. Apparently that means I'm just along for the ride and I should somehow feel a bit guilty about it

We are all part of an ecosystem
Mumsnet HQ may be the top predator and we may be just pond life to you but you are extracting value from our conversations our idle chat, however inane and crass you find us to be without us you are toast

I know free rider is an economics term. But no one here really is a free rider as our data is collected and sold. And users generate content. Users with ad blockers are opting out of one of the ways you make money out of users. And some of them have said they only decided to do so because the ads on here are more intrusive than other sites.

I didn't actually say freeloading, I said free-riding - which is a slightly different well known economic dilemma
Christ you couldn't make it up!
Condescend to the people who create the value for your website
who work for free to make you money
how to Win Friends and Influence People
not

Yup, reflex, that's right

Wait, what, the people who work for free for Mumsnet creating the content we are now free riders??? what the fuck

I have three lines of text visible at the moment between adverts.

Three lines.