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Why has Stratters been banned for reporting suspected Trolls as per MN policy?

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SoPassRemarkable · 07/08/2017 10:23

Long standing, sensible poster.

Says she didn't troll hunt on the threads but reported. And has been banned for over reporting? Hardly her fault if there's lots of trolls to report?

Totally puts me off reporting any suspicions I have.

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BishopBrennansArse · 07/08/2017 14:22

Having an alternative opinion is neither derailing or goading. Reporting someone for views that are contrary to your own isn't really on unless they're an ism or a personal attack, is it?

DixieNormas · 07/08/2017 14:20

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whereismyparachute · 07/08/2017 14:19

I am not talking about Stratters.

I don't even know if it's the person referred to earlier in the thread, just saying that I reported someone for constantly goading and derailing.

DixieNormas · 07/08/2017 14:12

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SoPassRemarkable · 07/08/2017 14:08

But if it's not clear in the rules and that's what they were upset about why not give her a warning?

In the reply to Katherine you can see Stratters has promised to adhere to not challenging anyone....and then they ban her. I think they didn't like the tone of her reply. She didn't just say sorry and shut up.

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whereismyparachute · 07/08/2017 14:08

BishopBrennansArse, if you were talking to me, no, it was for deliberately de railing a thread and goading. I don't care if you thought it was 'nice' or not. Clearly I wasn't the only one.

nachogazpacho · 07/08/2017 14:04

I think pm is an issue actually.

It's really sad. When someone is being sucked in there is actually very little you can do for them as they will refuse to believe the evidence you present or your warnings.

Ladyflip · 07/08/2017 14:00

Has Stratters been banned over that spat with a well known poster where the well known poster was incredibly rude to the OP and made cracks and rude remarks about her sex life? And the well known poster is not very liked by Stratters?

nachogazpacho · 07/08/2017 13:57

Perhaps there is a rule about pm to users about other users? To stop behind the thread gangs. And it was applied in this case because users were upset to get warnings about another user. Frustrating if you know something is happening and you can't stop it. I can see why you'd pm but it's not necessarily going to go down well.

CoolCarrie · 07/08/2017 13:55

The thing is she was right about the issue... oh the irony.
MN hq DID vouch for him, they allowed the just giving link to stand, but hey now they say oh we can't vouch for everyone, you can't have it both ways, we aren't daft on here!

nachogazpacho · 07/08/2017 13:52

Or just go ' fuck it, moderate yourselves '. Which is sort of what take it to the thread means.

SoPassRemarkable · 07/08/2017 13:52

The only people she sent PMs to were a couple of people she was worried were getting sucked in.

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nachogazpacho · 07/08/2017 13:50

I can see why users might then report someone sending them a pm though about something or someone they didn't agree with. Even if it was a warning. They might not take it that way and see it as something else. Even if the original sender had no intention to upset.

I'd hate to moderate. Must be like unraveling spaghetti. I can see why you'd go the other way and have lots of rules to make it easier to sort out these issues.

MadMags · 07/08/2017 13:49

TBH, they've been beyond sneery and patronising in a lot of their responses lately.

They just really, really don't give a shit. People will feel a lot less frustrated when they accept that, IMO.

DixieNormas · 07/08/2017 13:48

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nachogazpacho · 07/08/2017 13:45

OK. What did they mean about ' challenging directly '? Was there an issue with Pm-ing other users about another user?

coughingbean · 07/08/2017 13:39

Stratters didn't PM the troll. She Pmd a few posters with her concerns.

Mychildcouldnotbreaatfeed · 07/08/2017 13:33

Bishops. That's what I thought. It would have ramped up the drama.

Hence I didn't.

Plus. I'd have got slaughtered given what it was.

But that is exactly what I was sent. So. I don't know

MadnessAbounds · 07/08/2017 13:33

@AmyGMumsnet Could you confirm what process HQ has when imposing potentially controversial bans? Is it a decision of an individual Mod, or must more than one Mod agree to the ban?

Given what Stratters wrote (that she would comply with Katherine's request), it strikes me that perhaps someone was having a bad day and got a bit trigger happy with the ban button ...?

BishopBrennansArse · 07/08/2017 13:32

We've always been told NOT to take it to thread - that's always been considered trollhunting. We've been always told to report- they love reports.

Have HQ now decided that clicks are more important? Ramping up drama to get more exposure for advertisers?

nachogazpacho · 07/08/2017 13:30

I've taken ' challenging directly ' as a pm. Is that what the ban was for?

AmyGardner · 07/08/2017 13:24

Urgh to 'we're afraid we won't be' doing anything about trolls or posts that break rules.

Don't be afraid, at least own your decisions and actions, HQ.

nachogazpacho · 07/08/2017 13:23

Why would anyone pm someone they thought was trolling? That's not going to help anyone. That's just feeding the troll. If you don't agree with a post why not say so on the thread, not in a pm. Reporting is good. Pm-ing people you don't agree with, even if you are justified and they're an arse, is something else entirely. I can see stratters was feeling unheard but I can see why mnhq did not want her to continue to pm someone she didn't agree with.

I hope I've understood that correctly. If not, my apologies.

Mychildcouldnotbreaatfeed · 07/08/2017 13:23

I was reporting a poster for lying about what happened on a deleted thread.

I was told to take it to the thread. The lies were to be allowed to stand.

MadMags · 07/08/2017 13:22

Please don't derail this thread!

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