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Abandoning the policy of responding to all reports was a mistake I think.

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SerfTerf · 06/08/2017 16:43

It's quite startling to read today that @thefirstmrsdv and @maryz have both given up reporting or lost faith in the report system.

I believe ALL reports used to receive a response of some sort? I know there was a bit of uproar when that changed.

I'm thinking that maybe going back to the old way might result in more dialogue and more people willing to report generally ( ?)

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ToEarlyForDecorations · 24/08/2017 16:11

'the best thread ever' idiots.Is it in classics yet?

Agree.

SerfTerf · 24/08/2017 16:06

Bumpety bump.

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HighAlert · 07/08/2017 20:57

Oh god yes, 'the best thread ever' idiots.Is it in classics yet?

VioletPeggs · 07/08/2017 20:54

There's two or three 500+ posts currently running which are 100% bollocks.

People are posting things like " don't care if this is all made up, so funny"

No wonder the trolls are winning

HighAlert · 07/08/2017 20:47

The one in fostering is definitely the Zeebrugge troll I didn't report though because I wouldn't have been believed.

I'm not sure why MNHQ are not experienced enough to see it.

OlennasWimple · 07/08/2017 20:06

I report more now than I ever did, so not getting an individual response doesn't normally bother me (especially if I'm reporting spam - I don't need an email to tell me that they have removed a message from someone who made £6500000 a month working from home....)

And I have had emails from MNHQ about specific reports, both asking me if there was anything in particular that set off my spidey senses or telling me that they have decided to let a thread run or to pull it

SerfTerf · 07/08/2017 19:19

I don't think I'm up to Big Philosophical Questions but reporting duplicate threads is helpful isn't it? To consolidate the responses?

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daisychain01 · 07/08/2017 19:10

There are currently three threads on someone being fostered, in Fostering, Chat and AIBU

I think I know the ones you mean.

In no way TAAT but in general terms, is there a guideline about not doing duplicate threads then? I can see it seems a bit weird posting three times, but dont people do that (except they normally say things like "I've also posted this in Legal" etc).

(Clue Big Philosophical Question..) Is attention seeking synonymous with trolling in all cases? Just wondering whether an OP who posts on 2 or more boards deserves to be reported? Shouldn't they be given the benefit of the doubt...

Maryz · 07/08/2017 17:30

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BishopBrennansArse · 07/08/2017 14:32

Hey let's face it looks like reporting stuff or objecting to disablism gets you banned anyway nowadays.

picklemepopcorn · 07/08/2017 14:30

Scadenfreude, I've been and looked at Zeebrugge after your and the others' gentle hints on the fostering thread. I'm in awe of your skill at recognising posting styles, and memory.

Now when I read, I don't believe anything anyone says- everything now sounds fake. Which can't be right, either!

WellErrr · 07/08/2017 11:54

They used to actually fool about on the threads with us. I guess MN is too big for that sort of thing now

And there are too many new posters who jump on HQ for every single little tiny error.

SerfTerf · 07/08/2017 11:51

Sorry hit send too soon.

I mean, maybe longer, more detailed reports help.

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SerfTerf · 07/08/2017 11:50

Maybe I should just write more.

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OhYouBadBadKitten · 07/08/2017 11:47

I've really reduced my reports too, I see a thread I don't believe and I just move on. If others are doing the same too that can't be good for the site.

We've always had an issue with scam artists taking advantage of people, that's the internet for you, but the more they get away with, the more that will happen, avalanche style.

MrsSchadenfreude · 07/08/2017 08:53

Exactly, Ginslinger - people in similar circumstances get sucked in and try and be helpful and they are the ones who get shat on.

MrsSchadenfreude · 07/08/2017 08:52

I think it is the frustration of reporting, hearing nothing, thread still there, thread still there, knowing that others have reported, but MNHQ won't do anything. And then it all comes to bite them on the arse like the David and Caroline one.

There are currently three threads on someone being fostered, in Fostering, Chat and AIBU, where the responses from the OP are identical in each thread. I've reported, others have reported, and have given a gentle prod on the thread, and we just get the "peace and love" response from MN. The similarity in story and posting style to a previous troll are striking, but this doesn't seem to have set any hares running with MNHQ. Surely if multiple people have their doubts about a thread (as was clearly the case with D & C) then this should make them think "oooh, maybe all these people might have a point..."?

Ginslinger · 07/08/2017 07:39

I still report a lot of the obviously enhanced threads and some get zapped but the ones that are almost neon-lit in trollishness seem to carry on gathering steam. MN isn't the place that it was because in terms of people looking for support, my instinctive reaction is to sniff the air for the smell of troll and that can't be right or helpful to the people who desperately need help and support but the leeching trolls have made me too wary of encouraging things.

PeachPearPotato · 07/08/2017 00:37

Pearly. No

MrsSchadenfreude · 06/08/2017 23:36

JuniorCakeOff - I also reported the Zeebrugge stylee poster...

Venusflytwat · 06/08/2017 23:21

We are not allowed to self-moderate. That would be ok if the site was moderated properly, but it isn't and won't be because of the overwhelming cost.

MaryZ you have nailed it. This is exactly the problem. They won't let us do it, but they won't spend money to do it properly themselves.

YesEinsteinsMumDid · 06/08/2017 22:46

IMO the do delete things quicker. But then I remember that after about 2am there was virtually no deletions until nearly 7am sometimes closer to 9am at the weekend. However, i took a break and there might have been a nice blip in the middle when deletions were faster. I might have missed it.

ConstanceCraving · 06/08/2017 22:45

Nope, nothing

PearlyPinkNails · 06/08/2017 22:43

I've been out. Have I missed anything?

juniorcakeoff · 06/08/2017 22:20

I do find they take longer to delete stuff now, there was a really annoying and disturbing thread from a fake social worker claiming to work with victims of abuse fairly recently that I reported more than once and lots of other people seemed to be reporting it too, took ages for it to be finally pulled. All you seem to have to troll on MN is use a different IP address and they can't do anything.