Disability

I thought that there had been a decision by MNHQ that posts reported for disablism would be clearly identified as such when the post is deleted.

spamming i would presume.... or assume.....

Although count downs aren't against the rules as far as i know.

Sooty it's gone now but it took a long time, and the posts counting down numbers were gone far far quicker. I would love to know why.

Yes the post with the reference to old dears is still standing, despite reports hours ago.

Ok, sorry, it wasn't like that when I was on it. That's appalling.

As for looking disabled, you're right, I'll take that on the chin. (I think I probably went for the 'someone else looks like they are heading for it' vibe, though, but still). Thank you for pointing it out.

Actually. Ignore that. I'm going to start my own thread on that.

I wonder how long it would take to delete a post if I referred to a certain group of people as golliwogs? I bet that would go on seconds.

Yet disability and age have the same protection as race. Why are they treated so differently?

Awful. I was so disappointed to see that particular thread still going with barely anything from HQ. And that response on it takes the piss. And here are posters with disabled children yet again bringing up disabilism in another site stuff thread.

I'm going to stick to fluffy threads in Style or TV addicts. Too heartrending to bother wading into the fray on disabilist threads or being expected to educate others on what it's like caring for a disabled child/putting up with fuckwits. Especially when it feels like HQ doesn't have your back.

That's shocking hq.

They won't listen. I very much doubt they'd reply.

I see all the counting down number posts on that thread have been deleted yet "old dears" still stands.

That's shocking hq.

onje woman said she uses disabled toilets to breastfeed in....

The post comparing having a disability to wearing a rucksack took the biscuit. As did the "old dears" which wasn't deleted last I checked. Despite being reported.

picklemepopcorn

As mentioned above talking about toilets isn't disablism, but the post didn't all talk about toilets.

There was one saying that a disabled lady was like a 9 month old, so not much difference.

There were a couple pointed out above, about the thread being "The disabled against mothers." Making the disabled parents on the thread something other that parents.

There were posts saying if a saw a disabled person i wouldn't use it.

There were ones saying that having a disability isn't really struggling, disabled people shoudl make way for those parents "really struggling".

And on and on.

Yes the "disabled against mothers" posts were a bit jaw dropping....

one thing that made that thread worse was the "oh i wouldn't use it if I saw a disabled person coming" type post.
as if disabled and people with conditions wear a big badge.
also the othering. it seems you can't be a mother, if you are disabled or caring for a disabled person......you become something else.

Ah, that was bad timing. Sorry.

At the risk of setting myself up for a flaming...

What about a big red stamp across posts to mark them as disablist but leave them visible? Honestly, those of us who don't get it won't ever understand if we don't get to see what's wrong. Until that thread (I didn't read all of it, as it's grown since I saw it) I thought it was ok to use disabled loos when they were unoccupied, if there was a real need, if it didn't cause delay to anyone.

I recognise disablism where unpleasant comments are made about people with disabilities because of their disabilities, obviously.

Why is it disablist to discuss using a vacant toilet? Some of them are often multi purpose- the cubicle in the row with rails and a door hinged differently for example, or the ones which have baby change in with them. If there is a queue in a toilet block, should the disabled one be left unused? Or can it be used until a disabled person arrives to use it?

Sorry, I didn't mean this to be about toilets but about understanding disablism.

user7r01112345: Blah blah blah i hate disabled toilets

REPORT REORT

Mumsnet: "we are moving this to SN chat so discussion can continue in a more appropriate enviroment""" blah blah blah this is my child.

user7r01112345: oh now i'm sad i can't masterbate everytime my thread get's in to trending this suck .

If it's really not about money and you really want the suffering of the few to educate the masses, why not move the "emotive" thread to a less active part of the site which doesn't show up in trending?

why keep it in the most viewed part of the website where the worst bandwagon jumping posters hang out?

I can only think of one answer, the pageviews mean more than people and their lives.

What's our abuse worth in the eyes of MNHQ's pocket?

I and i'm sure others would like to know how much money a thread like that actually makes for your site.

You are being abused on our site, never mind take all they dish out, you can then educate them like the nice second class citizens you are.

Hi there - yes, if someone were to be deleted three times for disablism they'd be banned.

What rubbish.

The whole system is flawed. if someoen want an honest debate they wouldn't do it on AIBU for a start.

Your site and these posts are causing genuine upset to many of your members, do you actually realise people in these threads are people,m who are getting their lives criticised and picked apart to 'educate' others who don't even want to be educated?

You wouldn't leave a thread about rape up for victims to to educate
you wouldn't leave a thread about dolling out domestic abuse up so suffers can educate the abusers...

It's a joke and a fucking disgusting one at that.

Thanks. Can I suggest you take a look at the Aibu thread then because there's some really close to the bone stuff.