How does this gel with your thread on your moderation policy MNHQ??

Exactly Mamushka

I agree entirely

Someone written a satiric poem expressing their anger at the election of a prominent figure.
That isn't the same as a personal attack or using racist/disabilist language.
How can we debate any political views if a criticism is framed as a PA?
It's ridiculous. I doubt DT will see the poem or care.

Isn't it obvious that there's a huge difference between a personal attack on someone simply for having different views, and a humorously venomous poem written about an almost-invincible public figure, someone who has incited hatred and violence towards women and minorities, and is unlikely to ever read said poem, let alone be emotionally affected by it?

I'm sure there are other examples where "personal attacks" of this nature would be allowed here. Remember the MN hack, all the hate spewed at 'Jeffrey'? What about abusive husbands on the relationships board? LTB? I know we can't act as judge, jury and executioner but if someone bullies you and brags about abusing women etc, well I don't think the rule against personal attacks is intended for situations such as these.

MNHQ rules are surely not binding laws that must be upheld to the very word in all circumstances, abandoning all common sense to enforce them?! I think MNHQ can use their discretion - it's pretty damn obvious that poem is harming no-one. Unless you're a sensitive soul in which case don't read sweary poems.

That doesn't make the nasty threads about his wife better, regardless.

I agree that a consistent policy would be good. What I dont agree with is tha MNHQ should be told to be "ashamed" of themselves for letting a man who believes that women's bodies are public property (grab 'em by the pussy) should be immune from public derision and satirical mockery.

So are other public figures and things they have said/done and if MNHQ would/do delete similar threads and comments about them then Donald Trump should be treated in the same manner by MNHQ. If any public figure is fair game and similar threads and comments are allowed to stand then all well and good but the policy should be clear and consistent.

He made those statements publicly. He is being publicly derided for them.

He is a public figure worthy of public scorn.

He hasn't done any of that on here though Caesium and if he had/did his posts would be deleted and he would likely be banned not rewarded with a thread in Classics.

The OP is asking for the rules to be applied with consistency that's all.

He said of Hilary:
"If Hillary Clinton can't satisfy her husband, what makes her think she can satisfy America?"

He set himself up for derision and foddder for satire. Sometimes it's the only way to cope with the horror of the reality.

He mocked a disabled man.

Trump should be fucking ashamed of himself.

Fat. Pig. Dog. Slob. Disgusting animal.

These are just a few of the names that Donald Trump has called women over the years.

V good point OP.
I think it's a hideous poem and not particularly well
Written or clever .

Flaccid cock ? It's ok to insult someone publicly those that ?

How about Flappy Vagina as an insult to Hilary Clinton ? Is that ok too ?

Mumsnet you should be ashamed of yourselves.

No ta.

I think the link to "the transgender thing" is that recently there has been a lot of threads about moderation from people who have been stamping their feet a bit because MNHQ aren't moderating exactly how those people would like. It's been mostly connected to threads about transgender people or disabled people.

Go and have a look at the Moderation Policy Thread OP has linked to and see who's shouting the loudest on that and all will become clear.

I reported a few particularly nasty posts calling Trump's wife thick and other things, but I notice they've not been deleted. I'm no fan of Trump, but I think an all out bash on his wife was really uncalled for. Some pretty vile comments on here as well. Looks like a "free for all" to me.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/2776500-Melania-as-FLOTUS?pg=1

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2777471-to-think-Donald-and-Melania-will-have-trouble-keeping-the-staff-Title-edited-by-MNHQ?pg=3

Agree with pp. Read Lougle's post several times and no mention of trans issues, so don't know why it's being brought up on this thread.

That's sort of what I was getting at Donk.

Ponty sorry to be a bit dense but OP is asking about Trump-insulting and you're a-froth about trans issues. I'm kinda not seeing the connection.

Yes, agree with HoneyDragon

I think the poem would fall under satire wouldn't it?

I didn't mean transgender people,I meant the whole political (small p) issue surrounding transgenderism.

Transgender people would help.

Manumission - because I think it's grim nasty bigotry against a group of people dressed up as feminism.

Your use of "the transgender thing" is telling.