How does this gel with your thread on your moderation policy MNHQ??

Oh sorry, my bad. Of course bombing 7 countries doesn't mean America is at war because America hasn't been attacked, have they? Funny that.

It's just military operations of course.

I'm sure the semantics are of the utmost importance when you are killed or maimed from a bomb blast.

Thanks though. Really appreciate that correction. I wouldn't want to be wrong especially when it's totally irrelevant to the thread.

Last I checked America was at war-

Good grief. Last I checked, Obama was still president has been for eight years now.

And, no. America is not "at war". To be at war with a country, Congress has to declare an act of war and it hasn't done so.

The Hitler poem was introduced by poster Mr Tumbles to justify mocking world leaders. It is a ridiculous comparison.

Sorry if the bold fail failed to make that clear.

Come on Lass, clearly we missed that the poems author is a Syrian in Syria!

I think it is a ridiculous comparison , you don't.

Eh?

There was a bold fail. I didn't realise that you were quoting someone. I thought you introduced the Hitlers balls poem to the thread.

I am bowing out of this as I am confused and don't have time to read the whole thread to make sense.

War seems irrelevant to the Trump poem but I don't know what's been said.

You really don't understand the difference between a mocking poem written by British soldiers in the darkest hour that country faced to lift their morale and the poem being discussed in this thread?

The UK wartime one was referred to as some sort of comparison and justification for the OP's post.

I think it is a ridiculous comparison , you don't. The rationale is yours, not mine. If the comparison was legitimate then by extension one should be happy to see similar lines about Obama.

Do you really think anything today is comparable with the situation the UK faced when those lines were written?
Yes it probably does if you live in one of the SEVEN countries that America is bombing.

You were the one who justified the above "poem" because of war not me don't turn your fucking 'rationale' around on me.

How disingenuous. Do you really think anything today is comparable with the situation the UK faced when those lines were written?

Or if you do presumably you would have no issue with similar lines being written about Obama?

The difference being we were at war when those were written. Just a small point...

Last I checked America was at war- currently bombing 7 different countries. Not under Trump of course but they are "at war"

Hitler has only got one ball
The other is in the Albert Hall
His mother,
The dirty bugger
Cut it off when he was small
Hitler has only got one ball
Hess has got no balls at all
Himmler had something similar
But poor old Goebbals
Had no balls at all

The difference being we were at war when those were written. Just a small point...

I did not think the poem was clever , nor was it satire.

lougle, I agree with the points you are making. I thought the 'poem' was vile and should have been deleted.

I wasn't even on the thread.

Fair enough, but you'll see Justine then says it is being deleted for personal attacks, not for misgendering.

I don't know another about the subject to get involved, but "not a woman" stands out in the above screenshot.

Calling Paris 'he' would be misgendering

Last I checked, biological statements of fact were allowed on mn.

No misgendering.

Um.... Pairs is neither a Blogger, a woman, a mother....

From what i understand (fromt his thread) she's a woman.

Just as an FYI...
Please find attached Rivertam's post from the PL thread. No misgendering.

Minority not modify FFS

You honestly do not see how ridiculing a general MN user, or a particular modify community DOES NOT equal ridiculing our neo-Adolf?

You seriously interpret equality as the same rules for all, not ensuring that rules accommodate and respond to individual instances?

Jesus Christ.

I agree OP.

I don't really have much more to add. A bit more consistency would be good.

I thought of this thread this morning listening to the Today programme on R4.

Kenneth Baker and Jan Ravens were discussing satire. Ken made the excellent point that satire was banned in pre-revolutionary France and the French had their royal family beheaded.

We've always sent up our superiors (Swift, Hogarth). It's part of liberal democracy.

Eh. MumsnetHQ have made it clear that their moderating policy isn't consistent. It's not transparent, either: it seems to be "we make it up as we go along and if you don't like it you can leave".

I know lougle.