How about a campaign where the users get MNHQ staff to take diversity training?

'You need to be sent on a course' has been fighting talk in most places I've worked (unless your boss says it in which case STFU and go on the course).

Also, what Worra and user1478350730 (FFS get a proper name!) said.

MNHQ are a fairly diverse bunch of people, each of us with our own experiences but I would politely push back on the idea that there is no meaningful disability awareness at MNHQ. On the community team alone, we have a member of staff who is deaf, and member of staff who has a son with DS. We do try to be as compassionate and understanding as we can be to all.

As always, we do read and appreciate your feedback and we will have a discussion about the issues that this has raised and how we could have better managed the situation.

Apologies again for any upset caused.

Posted by RebeccaMumsnet in June on a thread called MNHQ - are they disabilist?

Breathtakingly rude indeed.

I think Maryz stays on Craicnet (sp?) now..

I think a fair few of us shout cunt at our screens Worra

I meant in general btw, not anyone in particular and not on this thread

Haha thanks WP. Not sure about calm and collected though.

I tend to shout 'cunt' at the screen while typing politely

So we are lying when we say we've reported then?

Sorry Dixie that wasn't a dig at you. Some users assume the site is moderated and remove posts without them having to be reported.

MNHQs only obligation is to ensure the site stays within the law. If it is not, I don't think a thread is the right way to approach it. If it is, but users are offended by content that they report, then MNHQ have decided that it was not offensive to the majority of users/ not in the sites interests to be removed.

And that is their business decision into make.

Do people mean diversity training? Do they mean training to develop knowledge of disabilities? Do they mean training to be able to spot disablist language?

Isn't it generally covering the rights of inclusion, the fact that the Equality Act isn't about treating everyone the same, but providing support to get everyone to the same level. One person might need tailored support and more time on one area while others do not... some might need more help and understanding while others may not... impulsiveness is a big issue and so on.... And recognising when someone may need support but be unable to ask for it.

To be honest, MNHQ on an individual level with individual people do work very well and case by case I actually think they cover this.

BUT i also agree as a whole there is a problem, a lot of the 'nit picking' (for want of a better term) at little things wouldn't happen if big things were tackled head on. "Day watch" is very good as it would allow posts to be hidden before taking up an entire thread.

The night watch, when they are on, do a fantastic job.

Worra, you are the Oracle of Mumsnet. You know everything . I always think you take such a balanced view of everything - you are always calm and collected

there you go, slender. You are, actually wrong in your assertion that the sum total of MNHQ's experience of disability is 'having a relative who is deaf'.

You can chunner on twisting your post to not mean what you initially meant it to mean but . You'll still be wrong.
I don't identify people by their disability so am unable to help you with names.

Zzzzz I agree.

The fact that they were gracious enough to provide that information and it was threw back in their faces is a disgrace.

Am I the oracle?

I suppose I could provide the post if

A.) I could remember which member of MNHQ made it.

B.) I could remember what thread it was on.

C.) I was sure the thread hadn't been deleted

D.) You weren't so bloody rude

Find it yourself if you're interested. I can't be fucked searching.

Not the two disabilities, but the relative with bit.

It's a member of staff who is hearing impaired, one of the Moderators infact, and someone over stepped the mark massively once in complaining about the "DEAF MEMBER OF STAFF" which was completely uncalled for as she was posting on the thread.

One of the moderators also has a child with downs syndrome. I think you are getting the two things confused.

Why the rudeness Slender?

Worra is just saying what she remembers, I remember it that way also but there have been so many threads on the subject (some deleted) I wouldn't know where to start looking for the post.

Although if they do have people with disabilities on staff there is actually more obligation to seek this kind of training, not less.

Yes it's a member of MNHQ staff who is deaf, not someone's relative.

No saucery, accusations weren't being flung at them and our recollections differ. They didn't say it was the entirety of their understanding of the issue but if courses had been attended it would have been relevant, reassuring and in their best interests to mention it so I think it's reasonable to conclude there probably was not a course to mention.

And in no way did they say it as the be all and end all of getting everything right wrt disability every time. It was in response to accusations flung at them about diversity and understanding.

Actually, slender, didn't they say they had a member of staff who is deaf?
To reduce that to oh well, they say they know someone with a disability is what I call breathtakingly rude.