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How about a campaign where the users get MNHQ staff to take diversity training?

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Ghostofasmile · 03/11/2016 13:09

MNHQ themselves have displayed ignorance (at best) over the last few months and prejudice / discrimination at worst when dealing with certain situations.
For example Justine, the sites owner herself over the last few days has made some very ignorant and damaging comments about diabetes.
We have seen the same with many times with Racism too as well as low level disablism.

Unless you are white, middle class and able bodied HQ isn't a nice place to be.

Post here if you would like this to take place. HQ need training and they need it fast.

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WaitrosePigeon · 05/11/2016 09:28

Not sure why Mumsnet is in capitals..

WaitrosePigeon · 05/11/2016 09:28

I don't want another one of my weekends ruined by MUMSNET, so my last post on that particularly awful situation for anyone reading this is that I don't want anyone to think he was banned unfairly - he wasn't. His comment was disgraceful, and Hq agreed.

If anyone wants to argue that fact just remember I am real person and that weekend something dreadful happened to me and what he said will forever be stuck in my mind - so please, if you want to reply to this thread please consider my feelings when you do so.

WaitrosePigeon · 05/11/2016 09:28

Yes, fuck him indeed.

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Ghostofasmile · 05/11/2016 09:27

And then was banned for his conduct. It was appalling.

Yeah fuck him.

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WaitrosePigeon · 05/11/2016 09:23

And then was banned for his conduct. It was appalling.

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Ghostofasmile · 05/11/2016 09:21

Anyway, I won't be excusing his behaviour.

Neither did he, he emailed HQ and asked to be banned... then publicly apologized on the last disablism thread for what he had done.

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WaitrosePigeon · 05/11/2016 09:18

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Ghostofasmile · 05/11/2016 09:18

I'm Javabeansaintgeorge by the way, I unregistered, then re-registered.
If there's a way to get my old account back let me know.

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Ghostofasmile · 05/11/2016 09:15

And Jason has a long site history, so certainly didn't make the fact he has this disability up, as others suggested on the thread.

I remember he also asked if a donation to a miscarriage charity would be a good thing to do?

He was unfairly banned MNHQ failed you both that night and shouldn't have let the thread get into that state.

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Ghostofasmile · 05/11/2016 09:11

This would be Jason with Autism and communication disorder who didn't understand what the word miscarrying actually meant and spent the rest of the thread apologising and emailed MNHQ to ask to be deleted.

Which is understandable on a thread about people who use the site with disabilities, that you'll get people with disabilities responding.

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WaitrosePigeon · 05/11/2016 09:00

He said that to imply I was using my miscarriage as a get out of jail free card - in a nutshell.

Just wanted to make this absolutely clear for everyone.

WaitrosePigeon · 05/11/2016 08:58

Actually just so that everyone reading is aware.

The recent heated thread in Site Stuff that I believe was deleted got very heated indeed. Throughout I was saying please be kind as we are all fighting our own battles. Once I had enough I said I was going to leave the thread.
Someone else then said something along the lines of 'people always say they are leaving'. I then said it was because that weekend I was actually having a miscarriage and I didn't want to upset myself further.

Jason then said 'I wonder how long it would take for you to tell us'.

That is why he was banned. So saying he was unfairly banned is quite hurtful. He was fairly banned. And thankfully HQ agreed.

WaitrosePigeon · 05/11/2016 08:51

himself unfairly banned wouldn't have happened

He did not get himself unfairly banned. He deserved to get banned for belittling my miscarriage.

MNHQ agreed that his behaviour was unacceptable so he was quite rightly, banned.

Just wanted to get that clear for anyone else that is reading.

GingerIvy · 05/11/2016 07:55

You'll note that I put up a perfectly civil post above and it was utterly ignored.

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Ghostofasmile · 05/11/2016 07:00

This hasn't come out of nowhere, we have tried to do it over email, with letters and keep things off the site.

Actually thinking about it i think this raises another failing on MNHQ's part, using Jason as an example, if they actually carried out the discussion privately over email and letters (instead of shutting down discussion by not replying), then we wouldn't be forced to discuss these emotive issues publicly on site stuff.

In this case Jason wouldn't have been on the thread, because there would have been a private conversation between the necessary parties many months before and the situation of him getting himself unfairly banned wouldn't have happened. In fact there might not have even been a thread in the first place.

The fact that people have had to use Sitestuff to get any sort of discussion going with MNHQ isn't good.

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BishopBrennansArse · 04/11/2016 16:36

I reported just after the post appeared, about 8.30 last night

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AmyGMumsnet · 04/11/2016 16:33

Hi Dixie

Thanks very much for reporting - this one came through fine, most odd.

Manumission · 04/11/2016 16:16

I don't think any of my reports from the app went through for months Dixie. Mobile site and desktop site were fine. Then all of my reports started going through as spam reports.

DixieNormas · 04/11/2016 16:14

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Manumission · 04/11/2016 16:05

Yes maybe everyone calming down a bit would help.

MilkTwoSugarsThanks · 04/11/2016 16:04

Manumission - sorry, I didn't mean to imply that you had said that about HQ, my point was more that the "sod off/start your own website" narrative is a direct response to the "MNHQ are a bunch of cunts" threads.

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AmyGMumsnet · 04/11/2016 16:02

@DixieNormas

We were reporting it before 10 o'clock sat night

Hi Dixie

We've not had a report from you about this one - would you mind reporting my post please, so we can check everything's working as it should be?

Manumission · 04/11/2016 16:00

AmyGMumsnet is it possible that the report function is glitchy again? Could that be what's causing the differing ideas about how long deletion is taking?

Manumission · 04/11/2016 15:57

Maybe that should be thread by thread or deletion by deletion.

Manumission · 04/11/2016 15:53

but get a proper conversation going with them,

I agree a conversation is what's needed.

This has become frustrated, entrenched, point-by-point squabbling.