How about a campaign where the users get MNHQ staff to take diversity training?

Yes well that forum isn't going to cut it, User because most of the members here appreciate and enjoy the 'diversity' of discussion and the ability to be bitchy-within-bounds and have a good old wrangle 24 hours a day.

I don't think any sort of moderated board would appeal for those reasons because if it did, the members would be elsewhere and not here - snapping their fingers. So whatever they say, there will be no flouncing, just impotent grumbling.

STOP THIS!!!

PLEASE!

Stop trying, they are not listening, they won't listen, the reason they like contact made on sitestuff and not with Emails is becuase of Advertisements and money, simple really.

Nothing is going to change, it doesn't matter how much the discrimination is pointed out, it's not going to stop.

Someone posted this forum on one of the other thread, No, it's not nice or right to have to change forums, but Mumsnet isn't suitable, it never will be. IF YOU DON'T FEEL WELCOME YOU PROBABLY AREN'T as hurtful as it it it is a waste of energy to try and change things here, it's not working.

Please instead of causing hurt to yourselves please migrate to another site, staying isn't worth the upset.

I'm absolutely astounded at the egos jostling for position on this thread. To coin AF, "Who do you think you are?".

You're blisteringly rude and obnoxious about posting on a free forum and having the option to report posts that contravene the rules and yet you believe that you're justified in pressuring the site owners to arrange 'diversity training' because they're not 'jumping to it' whenever you think they should be. It's not just on this issue it's several and I think it's to their credit that they're even listening to you rather than giving you a final warning before booting you off for good. Really, do go and set up your own websites!

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hi

how do we even contact mumsnet staff?

I have tried by email but they don't even respond and it is quite important

Whatever you say, Dixie.

Seperately to this it does seem like there would be a great business opportunity to set up a specialist forum for those with disabilities and their families - it could have all sorts of expert guest blogs, practical help and support, get sponsorship from charities etc etc

Someone should do it

No Dixie, I didn't name call - that's not what I do. You've got that wrong.

My posts were deleted because they quoted previously deleted posts.

It's probably fairly safe to assume that the second just one person mentioned "legal" MNHQ would have checked that out immediately. So I'd guess a lot of the 'ignoring' is probably MNHQ refusing to engage with empty threats.

I remember the thread, Waitrose I hope you are recovered from your miscarriage 💐

It's important to say that any banning or flouncings were self inflicted - so that the truth of what happened doesn't get lost with the passage of time (or the stories are spun to look like anyone was forced out unfairly)

I think MNHQ are perfectly capable of keeping up with legal obligations without having to be harangued by email.
It comes down to some users of a site wanting absolutely everything to be just as they think it should be, whether that be wrt disability, trans issues or anything else. The debates are always worth having, but the outcome may not be that every suggestion is then taken up by the owners of the site and cast in stone for evermore.

I think you are probably right Maud

I don't think it was an unfair ban either. I also remember that he wasn't trying to open a private dialogue with MN about disablism, he was threatening legal action and that's what his letters were about. That's what I saw on one of the threads anyway.

He also stated on a number of threads that MNHQ deliberately left up hate speech in order to get more clicks/viewers/advertising revenue.

I suspect that there was a long backstory to his banning, and his behaviour on that last thread was merely the final instalment.

Yes. He was approaching a legal angle after years of trying to open a dialogue.

As I have done and countless others.

I don't think it was an unfair ban either. I also remember that he wasn't trying to open a private dialogue with MN about disablism, he was threatening legal action and that's what his letters were about. That's what I saw on one of the threads anyway.

I just want to add that I remember that thread Waitrose and I don't think he was unfairly banned either. Although I think he was almost begging to be banned for it so quite why he didn't just leave the thread and deregister himself I don't know.