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Disablism

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BishopBrennansArse · 17/10/2016 11:06

Shiny new thread.

Hopefully won't get derailed.

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ayeokthen · 19/10/2016 21:43

CandyMcJingles sorry, I misunderstood your comment Blush
I do want to be part of the movement for change, for challenging disablism and for educating people, challenging ignorance and making the world an easier place for anyone with a disability/child with a disability to live in. I have fought for my boys since the days they were born, even more so when I realised they needed me to have their backs against bastards who mock, exclude and belittle them.

IamSwitzerland · 19/10/2016 21:42

I am trying to catch up on a few short hours here, have I read this right, was Candy actually told to get back in her box whilst the usual was 'considered' then a regurgitation of the infamous anti-sledgehammer statement rolled out. WTF?

Quick question has anyone ever seen the phantom sledgehammer approach ever, I mean does it exist in MN living memory? I've never seen it applied to disablism so am wondering where the proof of it not working is?

As to the rest of the scan read posts I stand thus -

bun fight reference - offensive
shut fuck up about disablism - no it needs sorting
what is disablism - prejudice that others and belittles
be polite when endlessly insulted - eh no

Did I miss anything out?

PolterGoose · 19/10/2016 21:39

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CandyMcJingles · 19/10/2016 21:38

Not you aye. I'm referring to a previous poster. Aye you ve been great.

Hateloggingin · 19/10/2016 21:38

I a such a twat! I've just spent 20 minutes trying to work out why everyone had suddenly starting typing 'Scottish' posts... Then realised all the casual 'aye' s related to a posters name :D

PolterGoose · 19/10/2016 21:37

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ayeokthen · 19/10/2016 21:36

I wasn't saying anyone was looking for trouble on this thread?
My opinions as the mother of boys with ASD are every bit as valid as any other parent of a child/children with any other disability. Whether I agree with someone or not, I can respect their right to hold that opinion. I expect the same in return.

Smartleatherbag · 19/10/2016 21:35

Polter, spot on there. Mn in general has become far less tolerant, very mainstream.

DixieNormas · 19/10/2016 21:34

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CandyMcJingles · 19/10/2016 21:33

Aye I've fine the same. Ive made some right clanged, got it wrong, reported posts and then regretted it.
I've reflected, took on board what other posters have said, got an arse kicking and I've said sorry. I've patched things up with other posters.
Nothing wrong with being wrong.

But please don't say we are looking for trouble because we say something is not right. (Not you aye, generically).

EverySongbirdSays · 19/10/2016 21:31

And therein the rub!

Poster A : I find that disablist

Poster B : I did not intend that

Poster A : That is how it comes across

Poster C : Bloody SN brigade leave Poster B alone

Bunfight.

Every disability thread ever, hence avoidance

yesterdaysunshine · 19/10/2016 21:29

I think only the OP of that thread could answer that.

EverySongbirdSays · 19/10/2016 21:27

Or was it yesterday or was it being couched in other ways, so as to not seem that way? I felt so.

ayeokthen · 19/10/2016 21:26

CandyMcJingles I said earlier that a comment you made on another thread (not about disability) had really made me think and changed my opinion. I maintain the basis of what I said on the thread being discussed was fair, at one point I got into an argument and was out of order, for which I apologised, but the basis of what I was saying I stand by.

EverySongbirdSays · 19/10/2016 21:25

Anyway I wasn't so much opening that thread for discussion as referring to it as an example.

yesterdaysunshine · 19/10/2016 21:25

Oh, absolutely, and unacceptable and rude and unkind - but not disabilitist.

EverySongbirdSays · 19/10/2016 21:24

She did indeed say the child clashed with her child, but she was considering leaving out only him and two new boys.... it didn't sit right, kids clash, likely he'd also clashed with invitees at one time or another, it was a whole class party save those 3, and on that basis, pointed.

CandyMcJingles · 19/10/2016 21:19

People really are unable to admit they might have got it a little bit wrong and they can learn from it and do it better next time.

But good at blaming the ones fighting for fairness for a protected and vulnerable group.

Gosh. We might make them feel bad.

ayeokthen · 19/10/2016 21:18

yesterdaysunshine that's what I was trying to say and got absolutely slaughtered for it.

yesterdaysunshine · 19/10/2016 21:17

I wonder if that's the problem, because IIRC the op on that thread was hesitating over inviting the child with SN because he and her son clashed.

Two years ago I taught a fantastic kid with some brain damage that meant she couldn't walk, although her intelligence wasn't impaired. She had a great and wicked sense of humour, was feisty, funny and was liable to run you over with her wheelchair if you didn't move quickly enough. I really liked her.

At the end of the school year she won the 'name of famous ex pupil' award which was for children who embodied qualities of gentleness, hard work and friendship.

It wasn't her. If there had been an award for feistiness or determination she'd have got it but not gentleness! That was classic seeing the disability not the person.

I don't condone leaving one child out of s party but that stands firm disability or no. It's misleading to present that information as if the OP of that thread wanted to leave the lad out because of his SEN, when I don't think she did.

PolterGoose · 19/10/2016 21:16

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Pagwatch · 19/10/2016 21:13

EverySongBird
Flowers

Yep. 'Oh no I didn't mean it like that' is often just backtracking from the unconscious thought.

Smartleatherbag · 19/10/2016 21:09

X post ilove. I see, best dropped I guess when it's like this and been rehashed

ayeokthen · 19/10/2016 21:08

In which case I shall take my leave Ilovehedgehogs because I am not strong enough to go through all that again. I will say that I will defend my boys and anyone else with a disability against disablism until the day I die, but I cannot cope with the vitriol thrown at me last week, so I'm done.