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Disablism

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BishopBrennansArse · 17/10/2016 11:06

Shiny new thread.

Hopefully won't get derailed.

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CandyMcJingles · 17/10/2016 21:02

Yes sadly I thnk this true MrsJayy.
We should be thankful for our lot and stop causing trouble.

I am obviously of equal importance as anyone else. In order to be equal I might need extra support. I'm ok with that.

It would seem sometimes that others aren't.

EverySongbirdSays · 17/10/2016 20:55

It's about value judgements and vicarious quality of life judgement

"I'd rather be dead...."

There's the thing I forget the name "hierarchy of need" that it's impossible to achieve a certain level when the basics aren't there.

My favourite is :

"Well you do have your DLA for X, Y, Z" Yes because that's not a finite, pre-allocated resource at all, it goes on for ever and covers all manner of things Hmm

MrsJayy · 17/10/2016 20:51

Yes i run out of steam its like i have so much going on some days I just cant muster the energy to explain stuff

MiscellaneousAssortment · 17/10/2016 20:46

Oh.

It's too painful to rewrite my posts. Physically painful I mean. Cos of, you know, being disabled and all.

The easiest way to drown out disabled voices is a war of attrition. The disabled person always loses. As they run out of their physical (& emotional) resources quicker.

EverySongbirdSays · 17/10/2016 20:42

Apologies for sounding sniffy Umbongo Flowers

MrsJayy · 17/10/2016 20:36

It is to do with the disabled not being grateful candy it is like saying well we gave women the vote why are you still complaining . we are letting you live in society and you are still complaining . Pisses me off and its ingrained some people cant or choose not to see it

CandyMcJingles · 17/10/2016 20:24

^ sorry mrsjayy not mrsd (auticorrect)

CandyMcJingles · 17/10/2016 20:23

Mrsd at I'd be quite happy for the often trots out "you are being over sensitive" comment to be deemed as disablist.
Can you imagine someone objecting to a sexist comment and others thinking it is ok to say you were being over sensitive.

As if we don't already have thick enough skins with all the knocks we've already had!

Why are we blamed for others lack of sensitivity about disablism?

And it is left to stand.

Sgoinneal · 17/10/2016 20:21

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MaddyHatter · 17/10/2016 20:09

sgoing.

i dislike that for other reasons.. i hate that my sons Autism is offered up like an excuse for another childs bad behaviour.

Someone kills someone - maybe he's autistic
someone hits someone - maybe he's autistic.
child is disruptive in class - maybe he's autistic
social awkwardness - maybe he's autistic.

It perpetuates the belief that Autists are violent, disruptive and dangerous. I don't want my sons disability (or mine) trotted out like that every time someone misbehaves.

MrsJayy · 17/10/2016 20:05

Hi just checking in I feel deflated atm after being told i was over sensitive on the last thread and astounded that some posters blanket label disability on a shall i get my son a mobility scooter for xmas thread. Sometimes I feel like im wasting energy.

BishopBrennansArse · 17/10/2016 20:02

You spelled it correctly apart from an h. Phlebotomist Wink

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Ausernotanumber · 17/10/2016 19:56

Not you lot. You the judgey folk in the surgery.

Ausernotanumber · 17/10/2016 19:56

I'm tired of it today. I took my disabled DC to the doctor surgery today and we git the stares in the waiting room.

The hcp we saw (I can't spell plebotomist) was lovely but I am sick sore and fed up being judged. I am doing my fucking best and if you think you can do it better feel free to try.

CandyMcJingles · 17/10/2016 19:48

It is weird isn't it, that if we defend ourselves we are sneered at.

If we defended ourselves against racism or science, can you imagine the reaction if anyone sneered at that?

And the sneerers don't undated that they are being disablist.

Sgoinneal · 17/10/2016 19:44

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UmbongoUnchained · 17/10/2016 19:34

Thanks will take a look elsewhere.

BishopBrennansArse · 17/10/2016 19:32

I think the you're able site used to have forums, don't know if they still do?

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CandyMcJingles · 17/10/2016 19:28

I've tried previously to set up a chat thread umbongo but not many takers.

I think our challenge here is to get all MNetters to understand what a disablist comment looks and sounds like.

UmbongoUnchained · 17/10/2016 19:17

Ok I was asking for myself, not trying to offend anyone..

EverySongbirdSays · 17/10/2016 19:09

I have no idea.

I hate segregated stuff passionately, segregation is the problem not the solution.

UmbongoUnchained · 17/10/2016 18:55

Are there any decent forums aimed specifically for diabled/carers?

Mozfan1 · 17/10/2016 18:34

I'm just shocked reading these stories, that this shit still happens in 2016... Fuck me

Disability is real, every disabled person is different, no disabled person is defined by their disability. We need to open our fucking eyes, wobble our heads and get a grip.

EverySongbirdSays · 17/10/2016 18:19

It's awful/exhausting having to feel like you have to justify your right to ordinary things constantly. Employment, love, sex, family, support, transport etc etc etc

CandyMcJingles · 17/10/2016 18:01

I thnk we can also beat ourselves up. When I was retired from work on medical grounds (their choice, not mine) after three redeployments (their choice, not mine) i seriously had to deal with my own self identity crisis. What was I if not a worker? What was I without my career? I studied for years to gain qualifications. I chose to go back after maternity leave, it wasn't my choice to retire at age 41. There are serious financial implications for my family. There is more pressure on my DH to provide financially. My peers are having successful careers and more lavish lifestyles.
Yet I know others think I'm jammy because I don't work.
I find myself justified my position a lot.
I'm deafblind. I've lost 95% of my vision so far. Yet people think I am lucky.