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Disablism

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BishopBrennansArse · 17/10/2016 11:06

Shiny new thread.

Hopefully won't get derailed.

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Ausernotanumber · 18/10/2016 20:13

Awh fuck. Balls.

REPOSTING

Ausernotanumber · 18/10/2016 20:11

Reporting this from the other thread (without ballsing it up this time)

Section 26 of the equality act 2010 -

Other prohibited conduct

26Harassment

(1)A person (A) harasses another (B) if—
(a)A engages in unwanted conduct related to a relevant protected characteristic, and
(b)the conduct has the purpose or effect of—
(i)violating B's dignity, or
(ii)creating an intimidating, hostile, degrading, humiliating or offensive environment for B.

Mumsnet at the minute you are 26(ii) for those of us who have a vested interest in disability equality. I have a disabled child and I feel 26(ii)

What are you going to do about it ?

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 18/10/2016 19:47

I see the usual happening on other thread.

Frankly disgusting comment made then when someone addresses it they are met with a wall of people saying they are the SN brigade and have an agenda etc.

From past experience reporting would achieve nothing either.

Ausernotanumber · 18/10/2016 19:21

60sname first off that's not an accurate representation and secondly haven't you heard of hidden disabilities?

60sname · 18/10/2016 19:13

Auser all the critical comments referred to antisocial behaviour; one of the few that mentioned people with LDs was critical of NIMBYism eg petty complaints about unobjectionable behaviour

60sname · 18/10/2016 19:05

Owllady feel free to explain why you object to my terminology

Akire · 18/10/2016 18:48

Everyone should have same rights, and some regard for how their actions will effect others. Same as anyone else. Sometimes other people may have to make those calls for them in appripote ways, though often for those with Disablites their rights are screwed to unfairly balance rights or feelings of non disabled people. Eg LD group may want to go out pizza, manager thinks othe customers/staff might feel uncomfortable about sight/or minor behaviour shouts/movements so says they are busy instead.

I'm a wheelchair user can think of countless examples where my rights are not same as able bodied people. For example care agency want weeks notice of shifts I need covered, I can't plan to go on a different time or date or emergency dentist. I can't get taxi or train without 24h notice this isn't normal for people. Society isn't in hurry to balance things up we are accused of expecting to much or causing trouble

CandyMcJingles · 18/10/2016 18:31

^ I was using 60s terminology

CandyMcJingles · 18/10/2016 18:30

Opportunity for me to learn

Do NT people with challenging behaviour, and secondly, people with learning disabilities, have different sets of rights from each other?

Or for that matter different sets of rights from anyone else?

Ausernotanumber · 18/10/2016 18:28

So how can you not see disablism in that there was an assumption made? There were negative assumptions made AND normal behaviour of people was negativised due to LDs?

Owllady · 18/10/2016 18:27

Do you mean NT people eith EBD? Hmm

60sname · 18/10/2016 18:24

Auser yes I did

60sname · 18/10/2016 18:24

*Apologies, learning disabilities

Ausernotanumber · 18/10/2016 18:23

60sname did you read the thread?

60sname · 18/10/2016 18:23

Auser why? The vast majority of the replies commented assuming that it was NT people with challenging behaviour (which the OP has now confirmed), not people with learning difficulties.

Akire · 18/10/2016 18:17

Can you imagine uproar if my blond blue eyed twin 6y old girls like to sit on front wall and say hi while waiting for lift to school and neighbours complain uproar!! Learning Disabilites seen as threating-unpalatable - something to be hidden-other rights more important than theirs- nobody said a word.

Owllady · 18/10/2016 18:13

I agree with fanjo tbh
Don't normal people sing in the shower ffs ?!

Ausernotanumber · 18/10/2016 17:54

I've reported that thread. Not holding my breath

Akire · 18/10/2016 17:51

Read the supported living next door thread, can see her concerns but what made me really sad is that one poster said "I used to work as carer and people complained in petty ways over men with learning disabilities singing in shower, or wanting to sit wall in morning waiting for bus and saying hello." You know like normal things they MADE residents stop this. Breaks my heart. If you are "normal" and want to sit in front wall smoking all sorts and shouting at neighbours all day nothing you can do, but young disabled people are forced to "behave" shut up wait inside. Least sensitive normal people may actual have to nod and say good morning to another human. You think it was Victorian times. It's often lack of rage that so upsetting!!

Franknsteen · 18/10/2016 14:54

Supportive independant living is very big here as well, from what i understand. BUT is so completely hard to actually get into the system.

CandyMcJingles · 18/10/2016 14:16

Ive posted on the benefit scroungers thread. I'm sure posters will be falling over themselves to educate themselves better. And I'll be criticised for my viewpoint and that I don't understand, I've got it wrong. And it's alright because I am genuine, it's all the other liars.

BishopBrennansArse · 18/10/2016 12:24

It's supported living for young adults with LDs here. I know of at least 16 units within 500 metres of my front door. I welcome it - it's what I want for my kids as I don't want them plunged into a situation when me and DH aren't here any more.

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DixieNormas · 18/10/2016 12:04

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Mozfan1 · 18/10/2016 11:55

Yeah, that one cut me too. As if someone who has had a challenging background should be locked away and being allowed to 'roam around' MUST mean they are going to do something awful. For gods sake. There was even someone on there saying that they WORK with these very types of children and they consequently wouldn't recommend living near a place such as this.

Sgoinneal · 18/10/2016 11:45

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