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I Would Like To Propose A Solution To The Trans Threads Problem

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DioneTheDiabolist · 31/08/2016 22:08

Dear MNHQ, I am pissed off with all the Trans threads. I understand that you don't wish to stifle debate/free speech and all that shit, so I propose 4 threads where all trans posts can be hidden go.

A Fuck Trans thread. For posters who hate that people are trans.
A Yay Trans thread. For posters who wish to support trans people.
A Trans Bunfight Club thread. For posters on the other two threads who want to have a bit of a ruck.
And a What MNHQ Have To Say About Trans Threads thread. For, well I think you get my drift.

All other trans posts on the site can be deleted, no other threads can be started and I can enjoy the site more.

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Ego147 · 01/09/2016 09:38

we will put it where we think it fits

Some people want a trans thread - just as people wanted a Brexit topic. Why are they wrong to want that? You could have all the discussions kept in one place for posterity, no expiring of threads as in Chat, the same discussions could be referred to.

I would have thought you'd have jumped at that chance

IzzyIsBusy · 01/09/2016 09:37

Some Transwomen and their supports feel that they have a right to invade wonens spaces. Be that toilets or rape support. They feel that the statement i feel like a women should be enough for an access all areas pass. It is most concerning regarding those thranswomen who still have a penis.
They also believe that women who talk about or support womens only issues such a pmt, breast feeding and childbirth are excluding them and should be called transphobic.
This is not a detailed response but sums it up for me.

SeekEveryEveryKnownHidingPlace · 01/09/2016 09:37

Sorry, you said mumsnet is for issues affecting women so issues affecting when should go in feminism? Don't understand.

hazeyjane · 01/09/2016 09:36

That should be heebie jeebies, maybe I should start a thread on why my phone insists on changing arsehole to hawsehole and heebie to newbie.

Sorry that I don't seem to have posted on threads that you deem important enough, ego, although I have spoken to you on threads about disability.

SeekEveryEveryKnownHidingPlace · 01/09/2016 09:35

we will put it where we think it fits. Usually on MN HQ will move a thread if they think it's best elsewhere.

Ego147 · 01/09/2016 09:33

And did you have a look at feminism chat

I look in there occasionally but don't post. But as people have said, Mumsnet is a place to discuss issues affecting women. Trans issues affect women - in a sense, feminism chat is a place to discuss issues affecting women.

Why not put trans issue there?
If that's the main place to discuss issues affecting women, then they could go there?

leccybill · 01/09/2016 09:32

Can someone sum up what exactly is the 'trans' issue? I'm unclear.

SeekEveryEveryKnownHidingPlace · 01/09/2016 09:30

And did you have a look at feminism chat?

Ego147 · 01/09/2016 09:29

But you know what, we don't have to justify talking about what we see as an important issue facing women which isn't getting much airspace anywhere else, to you or anyone else

No, you don't. I'm just surprised at what is not being discussed on Chat or AIBU at the moment.

SeekEveryEveryKnownHidingPlace · 01/09/2016 09:27

Bollocks. Have a quick look at the first page of feminism chat. Some trans-related, much not. But you know what, we don't have to justify talking about what we see as an important issue facing women which isn't getting much airspace anywhere else, to you or anyone else.

hazeyjane · 01/09/2016 09:24

Ego, I have been here for 10 years and have enjoyed talking about many things that have affected my life.....health, politics, childbirth, breastfeeding, formula feeding, having children, having a disabled child, Marvel mini series, making the perfect sandwich and why Gareth Malone gives me the newbie jeebies, but a few weeks ago I just hit a wall with mumsnet, and an abrasiveness of attitude that either is me being oversensitive or mumsnet getting arse-ier - either way, I thought I would leave, but the Spartacus thread seemed too important, and so I have stuck around for that.

Ego147 · 01/09/2016 09:22

Are there any other issues you think we would be better posting about, while you're at it

There's loads at the moment in the press - all real issues affecting women in their daily lives.

But fuck all on here.

Ego147 · 01/09/2016 09:21

queen

5 replies on FWR and that's it...Hmm

Trans threads on site stuff - 4000 replies..

SeekEveryEveryKnownHidingPlace · 01/09/2016 09:21

Exactly what thedog said.

While gender pay gap is a problem, there isn't the kind of refusal to admit that it's a problem as there is with trans. That's partly why the latter gets people posting more, though not necessarily caring more.

Are there any other issues you think we would be better posting about, while you're at it?

thedogstinks · 01/09/2016 09:18

Plenty of us would like to (and do) discuss these issues on news websites.

Oddly enough, gender critical comments are deleted.

MN are trigger happy enough when it comes to deletions on Trans threads, but they don't have a patch on the guardian.

Ego147 · 01/09/2016 09:17

If it's not your place to start a thread on it, why are you telling us we should have

Maybe it's because it might well be an issue that affects working mums - and of all the places out there, Mumsnet might be a place to see such a discussion as it is a real issue affecting working parents?

SeekEveryEveryKnownHidingPlace · 01/09/2016 09:16

If it's not your place to start a thread on it, why are you telling us we should have?

Sparklingbrook · 01/09/2016 09:16

Yes the wedding ones could do with being lumped together somewhere that's true. And MIL discussions.

SeekEveryEveryKnownHidingPlace · 01/09/2016 09:15

It is because 'BBC, media etc' are not engaging in any critical evaluation of the trans phenomenon that people welcome and need the opportunity to do so here!

Ego147 · 01/09/2016 09:15

Did you start a thread in gender pay gap that didn't garner much response or something

Not my place to start a thread on that.

From which I deduce that posters were interested in posting on the trans threads

True.

SeekEveryEveryKnownHidingPlace · 01/09/2016 09:14

The trans threads have generated 1000s of posts.

Gender pay gap post birth - discussed on BBC, the media loads.

From which I deduce that posters were interested in posting on the trans threads. Did you start a thread in gender pay gap that didn't garner much response or something?

QueenOfAllBiscuitsandMuffins · 01/09/2016 09:13

"Maybe we could have an area for important issues affecting women - so people could discuss them. Wouldn't just need to be about trans issues."

What a GREAT idea, maybe we can label them something like
Feminism chat
Feminist activism

Feminist book clubs

Feminist support

Feminist theory

Ego147 · 01/09/2016 09:12

The trans threads have generated 1000s of posts.

Gender pay gap post birth - discussed on BBC, the media loads.

Just saying..

AllMyBestFriendsAreMetalheads · 01/09/2016 09:12

I'm pissed off with all the threads about weddings at the moment. They're everywhere. And MIL threads. Sometimes we get a double whammy crazy MIL wedding thread.

And there actually is a wedding topic but I bet I could go on the first page of AIBU right now and find at least a few.

I don't listen to the Archers, or watch X Factor or any soaps anymore. I don't have teenagers and I'm not pregnant or TTC.

The other week there were 3 or 4 threads bashing AP mums parents and 2 of those were in FWR.

And ironically, there's a thread just like this seemingly every other week.