I Would Like To Propose A Solution To The Trans Threads Problem

I am engaging. As much as you are. You said posters on this thread were "running around like the sky is falling in". That's pretty rude, don't you think?

Threads about children are not moved off AIBU or chat to child specific boards.

And people like you can continue to bury your head in the sand, AbbeyBartlett, while women's rights get shit all over in the name of "progress". No thanks. Or you could just get the fuck over yourself? That might help.

Feminists asked for the feminist board to be set up.

Only a couple of people who post on trans threads have asked for a trans section. Most people who post on the topic do not want a specific board.

Wow venus instead of engaging why don't you just have a go at individual posters?

The odd thread would be fine, like the EU red threads. But every other thread is people frothing at the mouth about something that, to a lot of people, isn't relevant.

I don't have children so I hide most of the child related boards. It affects nobody else if I do this.

Therefore a trans board gets all this shit in one place and doesn't stop the debate continuing

I take it you don't read the guardian or similar left wing media, the mail or similar right wing media or watch the BBC or C4 then leccybill. Well good for you but it's hardly a fringe issue. It always amuses me when people come on threads to say they are so proud of being ignorant of current affairs.

Neither.

But my point was that the feminism boards exist, presumably that doesn't offend any of the people who post on there? So why is everyone so keen to ram the anti trans agenda down everyone's throats? If they give the trans issue its own board then it's a win/win - you can all continue to run round like the sky is falling in while recruiting new people and those of us who don't give a shit don't have to keep hiding this shite.

The feminist board was not set up with the intention of solving a problem of feminist threads appearing on MN.

It is not seen as a problem that feminist threads appear elsewhere.

IzzyisBusy Thanks for the explanation.

I don't know anybody who is trans and it doesn't come up in my real life in any way, nor is it in any of the media I read, so I have very limited understanding of the issue.

Yes of course feminism affects all women. Are you an MRA, or just spectacularly obtuse?

And feminism has its own boards so why is that any different? In theory feminism affects all women apparently - is that not sidelining the issue?

Why is it ghettoisation. I don't give a shiny shite if someone wants to call themselves whatever they want, and there are a lot of people on here who feel the same.

MN goes out of its way to be tolerant and leftie leaning to most issues except trans. And that's fine, but if you put it in a separate topic, then people who don't give a shit can hide it. I'm sure it won't stop 'people's eyes being opened to the issues' as it will come up on active unless they have hidden it.

It is such a huge topic these days that it should have its own sub-board. I think MNHQ may be worried about the backlash if they appear to be sidelining trans issues though...

I agree with maud

And even if its not true....doing such a topic now is going to make it SEEM like its true

Given that MN seems to be one of the very rare spaces where women can voice their concerns about transactivism and its impact on women's rights, shunting all these threads off into a Trans Topic would smack to me of ghettoisation and would carry more than a hint of silencing.

As are you, frankly.

Giving a topic its own section does not mean all threads related to it should be moved there.

People start threads about feminism on MN in chat and AIBU all the time, and they do not get moved to the feminist section.

Not all posters regularly use the feminist section. HazeyJane (my favourite MN poster, as it happens) is generally not on the feminist section, but posters like her still want to contribute to a variety of threads.

And I'm sorry to disappoint you, but we're going to keep talking about it

I'm sure you are. That much is predictable.

And I'm sorry to disappoint you, but we're going to keep talking about it. People can come on and say how sadly predictable it is, if they like, though that seems counterproductive to me.

I like The Litter Tray topic. The cat hating loons don't invade it. You can talk about all things cat in peace.

Sorry got a bit ranty there.....also, surely trans issues affects - women, men, children's health, men's health, women's health, mental health, feminism, education....(and probably some other areas)

Well, I don't think we are jumping at the chance: I think the people jumping at it are the people who want less talk about trans.

Personally, I think it is better to have a mashup of stuff on the main boards - I hate the whole, 'ooh, you special needs lot can go over there, topics affecting women, better pop off to feminism, dearie.....oh dear look at this dog thread, off you trot to dogsnet, or whatever other bollockoid topic has been thrown up this week. Right that just leaves chat and AIBU....throw in the pugil sticks and let's rumble'